From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Martin Schlemmer <azarah@gentoo.org>,
Chris Friesen <cfriesen@nortelnetworks.com>,
Riley Williams <Riley@Williams.Name>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
KML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Recent changes to sysctl.h breaks glibc
Date: 20 May 2003 23:58:05 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1llx0q1si.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ECB10BD.8070105@zytor.com>
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com> writes:
> Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> > The only issue that we might have, is that <linux/abi/*> will once
> > again break many things. Sure, if we have to fix them once to get
> > this fixed for good, why not.
> > On the other hand, why not leave it at <linux/*.h> and <asm/*.h>
> > as the location of the ABI, and then move all kernel only
> > related stuff to <kernel/*.h> (or whatever, just the concept which
> > count ...) which can then include whatever it needs form the other
> > places (linux/asm)?
> >
>
> Because then there will be a push to be backward compatible, and the current
> structure is hideously poor for this purpose.
In fact all but the most kernel dependent programs should still
not be using these headers directly.
Given that glibc plays interesting tricks with dev_t and friends.
Only an application that knows what it is doing should bypass
glibcs abstraction layer.
Mostly these headers will be there for glibc to include, and rexport
in sys/*
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-21 7:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-18 20:21 Recent changes to sysctl.h breaks glibc Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-18 20:49 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-18 21:12 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 5:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 10:43 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 10:51 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 11:14 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 11:21 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 11:33 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 11:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:52 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 21:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:44 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 22:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:56 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-05-19 23:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 6:06 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 11:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 12:56 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 13:06 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 16:56 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-19 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-05-19 21:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:18 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 22:20 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-19 23:28 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-05-20 10:35 ` Lionel Elie Mamane
2003-05-19 23:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 23:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-19 23:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 23:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20 0:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-20 0:40 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20 1:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-05-20 22:10 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 0:30 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 0:54 ` David Woodhouse
2003-05-20 1:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 1:42 ` Miles Bader
2003-05-20 4:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 4:24 ` Miles Bader
2003-05-20 6:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20 7:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-20 19:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-05-20 7:44 ` Riley Williams
2003-05-20 14:01 ` Chris Friesen
2003-05-20 17:06 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-21 4:39 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-21 5:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-21 5:58 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2003-05-19 18:05 ` David Ford
2003-05-19 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2003-05-20 2:21 ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-05-19 17:59 ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:06 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 18:23 ` David Ford
2003-05-19 18:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-05-19 19:43 ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-05-19 21:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-05-19 21:35 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-05-19 21:37 ` Arjan van de Ven
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-19 19:54 Mudama, Eric
2003-05-19 20:36 ` Martin Schlemmer
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