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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Yinghai Lu" <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
Cc: "Len Brown" <lenb@kernel.org>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: update mptable v7
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:32:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1mylim4e6.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86802c440806181749g2faf1892iea693717ea919631@mail.gmail.com> (Yinghai Lu's message of "Wed, 18 Jun 2008 17:49:16 -0700")

"Yinghai Lu" <yhlu.kernel@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Yinghai Lu wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 1 Jun 2008, Yinghai Lu wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> make mptable to be consistent to acpi routing, so we could
>>> >> 1. kexec kernel with acpi=off
>>> >> 2. workaround BIOS that acpi routing is working, but mptable is not right.
>>> >> so can use kernel/kexec to start other os that doesn't have good acpi
> support
>>> >
>>> > Is this an effort to boot an ACPI-mode kernel,
>>> > and then kexec a non-ACPI kernel?
>>>
>>> Yes,
>>
>> Why is this feature needed?
>> There are a number of ways that the resulting kernel may fail,
>> all platform specific.
>
> other os still doesn't have update acpi irq routing support. but has
> broken mptable.

Which is at least in part a reason to go back to the BIOS manufacturer
and get them to fix their table.

I can see a warning coming from the kernel if these two tables are inconsistent
though.

>>> > Doing so could confuse the heck out of the platform firmware,
>>> > which will think that an ACPI-mode kernel is still running.
>>> >
>>> > Note that it is a historic artifact, now considered a bug,
>>> > that ACPI uses the MPS code.  We should be divorcing these
>>> > two bodies of code rather than mixing them further.
>>>
>>> how about adding config option to not compile mptable related info?
>>
>> That's the idea.
>> CONFIG_MPS=n CONFIG_ACPI=y should build and run on
>> every PC built in this century.
>>
>> This was prototyped a long while back, but the
>> tree has churned so much since then the old
>> prototype is worthless.
>
> will look at it tonight.
>
> when EFI is popular, there is no reason to compile mps related stuff
> in kernel again. esp for 64 bit.

? EFI has nothing to do with this.  ACPI is popular today and EFI preserves
EFI.

> BTW, it is funny that Suse still has fallsafe boot entry with acpi=off.

Silly question.  Given that even writing to this table is platform specific.
Any chance we can do this any a userspace utility writing through /dev/mem
for the systems that need it?   We can even bundle the utility in the kexec-tools
package to make it easier to distribute.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-19  4:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200805041823.57198.yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
2008-05-06 17:38 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable Yinghai Lu
2008-05-06 17:41   ` [PATCH] x86: fixed mtrr change WP to WB Yinghai Lu
2008-05-06 17:48     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-06 18:24       ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-06 18:31         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-06 18:34           ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-06 18:43             ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-06 19:05               ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-06 19:08                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-05-06 19:15                   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-05-07  7:48   ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-05-17  2:32     ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v3 Yinghai Lu
2008-05-19 15:46       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-05-19 19:35       ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v4 Yinghai Lu
2008-05-19 19:52         ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v5 Yinghai Lu
2008-05-25 23:00           ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v6 Yinghai Lu
2008-06-01 20:17             ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v7 Yinghai Lu
2008-06-09  2:53               ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v7 - fix Yinghai Lu
2008-06-09 10:13                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-09 17:51                   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-09 18:11                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-09 19:09                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-09 19:38                       ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-09 19:46                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-09 19:49                       ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-18 21:32               ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable fix with no ioapic Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19  0:29                 ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable fix with no ioapic v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19  7:18                   ` [PATCH] x86: let MPS support selectable Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 12:13                     ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-19 12:49                       ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-19 15:10                     ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-19 17:39                       ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 18:03                         ` Len Brown
2008-06-19 18:48                           ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-26  9:31                             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                     ` <200806191213.10312.yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
2008-06-19 19:15                       ` [PATCH] x86: fix compiling when CONFIG_X86_MPPARSE is not set Yinghai Lu
2008-06-20 14:42                         ` [PATCH] x86: check command line " Yinghai Lu
2008-06-20 15:01                           ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-20 15:04                             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-20 15:36                             ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-20 23:11                           ` [PATCH] x86: check command line when CONFIG_X86_MPPARSE is not set v2 Yinghai Lu
2008-06-21  8:14                             ` [PATCH] x86: clean up init_amd() Yinghai Lu
2008-06-24 12:12                           ` [PATCH] x86: check command line when CONFIG_X86_MPPARSE is not set Pavel Machek
2008-06-26  8:23                             ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                       ` <200806200733.31477.yhlu.kernel@gmail.com>
2008-06-20 15:03                         ` [PATCH] x86: simplify x86_mpparse dependency check Ingo Molnar
2008-06-20 15:31                         ` Maciej W. Rozycki
2008-06-19 12:13                   ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable fix with no ioapic v2 Ingo Molnar
2008-06-18 22:18               ` [PATCH] x86: update mptable v7 Len Brown
2008-06-18 22:32                 ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19  0:33                   ` Len Brown
2008-06-19  0:49                     ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19  4:32                       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-06-19  5:09                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-19  5:11                         ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19  5:27                         ` Len Brown
2008-06-19  6:37                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-06-19  7:31                             ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19 18:16                               ` Len Brown
2008-06-20  6:47                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-06-20  7:20                                   ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-20  9:12                                   ` Andi Kleen
2008-06-19  5:20                       ` Len Brown
2008-06-19  6:26                         ` Yinghai Lu
2008-06-19  6:28                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-06-19  6:35                             ` Yinghai Lu

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