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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: rusty@rustcorp.com.au (Rusty Russell),
	anton@samba.org, davej@suse.de, marcelo@conectiva.com.br,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@transmeta.com
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4.17-pre5
Date: 11 Dec 2001 02:00:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1ofl6uo60.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16DEVr-0008SW-00@the-village.bc.nu>
In-Reply-To: <E16DEVr-0008SW-00@the-village.bc.nu>

Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:

> > 	If you number each CPU so its two IDs are smp_num_cpus()/2
> > 	apart, you will NOT need to put some crappy hack in the
> > 	scheduler to pack your CPUs correctly.
> 
> Which is a major change to the x86 tree and an invasive one. Right now the
> X86 is doing a 1:1 mapping, and I can offer Marcelo no proof that somewhere
> buried in the x86 arch code there isnt something that assumes this or mixes
> a logical and physical cpu id wrongly in error. 

Actually we don't do a 1:1 physical to logical mapping.  I currently
have a board that has physical id's of:  0:6 and logical id's of 0:1
with no changes to the current x86 code. 
> 
> At best you are exploiting an obscure quirk of the current scheduler that is
> quite likely to break the moment someone factors power management into the
> idling equation (turning cpus off and on is more expensive so if you idle
> a cpu you want to keep it the idle one for PM). Congratulations on your
> zen like mastery of the scheduler algorithm. Now tell me it wont change in
> that property.

The idea of a cpu priority for filling sounds like a nice one.  Even
if we don't use the cpu id bits for it.

Eric


  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-12-11  9:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-06 17:39 Linux 2.4.17-pre5 Marcelo Tosatti
2001-12-06 19:07 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-06 23:38   ` Dave Jones
2001-12-07  0:09     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-08 10:46       ` Rusty Russell
2001-12-09  0:17         ` Linux HMT analysis Anton Blanchard
2001-12-09  1:39           ` Alan Cox
2001-12-09  1:41             ` Alan Cox
2001-12-09  0:31         ` Linux 2.4.17-pre5 Alan Cox
2001-12-09  1:58           ` Rusty Russell
2001-12-09  2:35             ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-09  6:20               ` Rusty Russell
2001-12-09 16:24               ` Alan Cox
2001-12-09 19:48                 ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-09 22:44                 ` Mike Kravetz
2001-12-09 23:50                   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-09 23:57                   ` Alan Cox
2001-12-19 22:16                 ` Pavel Machek
2001-12-20 19:10                   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-12-09 16:16             ` Alan Cox
2001-12-10  0:21               ` Rusty Russell
2001-12-10  0:41                 ` Alan Cox
2001-12-10  2:10                   ` Martin J. Bligh
2001-12-10  5:40                     ` Rusty Russell
2001-12-10  5:31                   ` Rusty Russell
2001-12-10  8:28                     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-10 23:12                       ` James Cleverdon
2001-12-10 23:30                         ` Alan Cox
2001-12-11  9:16                           ` Robert Varga
2001-12-11  9:23                             ` David Weinehall
2001-12-11  9:00                   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2001-12-11 23:14                     ` Alan Cox
2001-12-09 19:38             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-12-09  9:47         ` arjan
2001-12-07 16:07     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-12-06 19:18 ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-06 19:05   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2001-12-06 21:14     ` Ben Greear
2001-12-06 21:58       ` David S. Miller
2001-12-06 22:24         ` Matthias Andree
2001-12-09 10:10         ` Eran Man
2001-12-06 20:14   ` Rik van Riel
2001-12-06 20:22     ` Jeff Garzik
2001-12-06 20:58     ` David S. Miller
2001-12-08  4:56       ` M. Edward Borasky
2001-12-08  5:41         ` David S. Miller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-06 20:44 Luca Montecchiani
2001-12-07  0:12 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-12-07  3:43   ` Keith Owens
2001-12-07 11:55     ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2001-12-07 13:35       ` Keith Owens
2001-12-07 14:25         ` Stephan von Krawczynski

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