From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 03:10:17 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 03:09:58 -0400 Received: from ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com ([166.70.28.69]:45122 "EHLO flinx.biederman.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 03:09:50 -0400 To: Matthias Andree Cc: Paul Jakma , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: intermediate summary of ext3-2.4-0.9.4 thread In-Reply-To: <20010802193750.B12425@emma1.emma.line.org> <20010803021642.B9845@emma1.emma.line.org> From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) Date: 03 Aug 2001 01:03:26 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20010803021642.B9845@emma1.emma.line.org> Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Matthias Andree writes: > On Fri, 03 Aug 2001, Paul Jakma wrote: > > > if the prime directive of MTAs is data integrity paranoia, then > > surely the best assumption for an MTA to make is that > > rename/link/unlink/symlink /are/ asynchronous in the general case? > > They do on Linux, use chattr +S, and are much slower than e. g. on > FreeBSD. Well. Not that I'd written THAT for the first time... Actually given that this thread keeps coming up, but no one does anything about it. I'm tempted to suggest we remove chatrr +S support from ext2. Then there will be enough pain that someone will fix the MTA instead of moaning that kernel is slow... That should be an easy patch to make... Eric