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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Migration of kernel interfaces to seq_files breaks pread() consumers
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:47:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1r62obev3.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090125120818.GA4454@x200.localdomain> (Alexey Dobriyan's message of "Sun\, 25 Jan 2009 15\:08\:18 +0300")

Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 06:19:24PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:51:35 -0800 (PST) Paul Turner <pjt@google.com> wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> > (Specifically) Several interfaces under /proc have been migrated to use 
>> > seq_files.  This was previously observed to be a problem with VMware's 
>> > reading of /proc/uptime.  We're now running into the same problem on  
>> > /proc/<pid>/stat; we have many consumers performing preads on this 
>> > interface which break under new kernels.
>> > 
>> > Reverting these migrations presents other problems and doesn't scale with 
>> > everyones' pet dependencies over an abi that's been
>> > broken :(
>> 
>> We changed userspace-visible behaviour and broke real applications. 
>> This is a serious matter.  So serious in fact that your report has
>> languished without reply for a week.
>> 
>> Reverting those changes until we have a suitable reimplementation which
>> doesn't bust userspace is 100% justifiable.
>> 
>> In which kernel versions is this regression present?
>> 
>> What would a revert look like?  Big and ugly or small and simple?  Do
>> the original commits (which were they?) still revert OK?
>
> This is bug http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11856
> Some of us think what to do here.
>
> Original patch not revertable as is.

Interesting.  This seems like a bug in seq_file plain and simple.
Userspace appears to be acting very reasonable in this case.

Why is there a notion that we have to differentiate between read
and pread in seq_file to fix this.  That doesn't make much sense.

Anyway here is an untested but logically correct patch which should fix
this issue, without nasty special casing of pread.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-27 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-17  7:51 Migration of kernel interfaces to seq_files breaks pread() consumers Paul Turner
2009-01-25  2:19 ` Andrew Morton
2009-01-25  3:40   ` Paul Turner
2009-01-25 12:08   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2009-01-27 21:47     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-01-27 21:48       ` [PATCH 1/2] seq_file: Move traverse so it can be used from seq_read Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-27 21:49         ` [PATCH 2/2] seq_file: Properly cope with pread Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-30  1:26       ` Migration of kernel interfaces to seq_files breaks pread() consumers Paul Turner
2009-01-30  3:01         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-01-30  6:09           ` Paul Turner

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