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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	pavel@ucw.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH] procfs: make /proc style symlinks behave like "normal" symlinks
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:57:08 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1skca2vi3.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091119132833.30bc93a4@barsoom.rdu.redhat.com> (Jeff Layton's message of "Thu\, 19 Nov 2009 13\:28\:33 -0500")

Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com> writes:

> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:07:16 -0800
> ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) wrote:
>
>> 
>> Nacked-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
>> 
>> This is broken.  If the referenced file is in a different mount namespace
>> the path returned could point to a completely different path in your
>> own mount namespace.  Even in your own mount namespace this makes the
>> proc symlinks racy and not guaranteed to return the file of interest.
>> 
>> I don't see any hope of this approach ever working.
>> 
>> Eric
>> 
>
> Then is proc_pid_readlink broken in the same way?

proc_pid_readlink has the same deficiencies.  The race is fundamental
to all readlink operations, the difference is that for normal symlinks
it is a don't care, and for proc it is incorrect behavior if you follow
the symlink to the wrong file.   If you are dealing with a file in a
different namespace or a socket what you get back doesn't actually
work as a file in your local namespace but that is the best we can do
with a pathname, and if you know the context of what is going on readlink
is still useful.

Adding all of the short comings to followlink that readlink has is a problem,
especially as followlink does much better now.

At a practical level I think your changes are much easier to exploit than
Pavels contrived example.

I really don't have any problems with your first patch to proc to add the
missing revalidate.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-19 18:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-19 13:44 [PATCH] procfs: make /proc style symlinks behave like "normal" symlinks Jeff Layton
2009-11-19 17:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-19 18:28   ` Jeff Layton
2009-11-19 18:57     ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-11-19 19:35       ` Jeff Layton
2009-11-19 21:31         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-19 21:39         ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-19 21:56           ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-19 22:30             ` Pavel Machek
2009-11-20  9:31           ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-11-20  9:51             ` Pavel Machek

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