From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] driver-core: devtmpfs - driver core maintained /dev tmpfs
Date: Sat, 09 May 2009 17:29:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1skjd4x7o.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ac3eb2510905070228w5ecb5aa9ob24af17a91d2f231@mail.gmail.com> (Kay Sievers's message of "Thu\, 7 May 2009 11\:28\:19 +0200")
Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> writes:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:17, Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:
>
>> sysfs is slow.
>> udev is slow.
>
> Everything is "slow" if you want to boot "fast". It's just numbers,
> and this is more about simplicity and reliability, with just the side
> effect that it's the fastest you can do, when you don't want to lose
> current functionality.
My primary concern is that you are inventing a new mechanism when
the existing mechanism has known issues that could explain the slowdowns.
My secondary concern is we have are adding a new mechanism when
the existing mechanism has some significant known issues, that are
not currently being addressed. Instead the next shiny bobble is
being tackled.
Finally I am stumped how creating a couple hundred device nodes can be
a significant slowdown in booting. It feels like we your patchset
adds a line of code for each device node it intends to create.
>> Let's bloat the kernel to solve that problem?
>
> You want to add namespaces for devices to it?
I think it is a logical conclusion, and it might potentially be needed.
But that is a long ways out.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-10 0:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-30 13:23 [PATCH] driver-core: devtmpfs - driver core maintained /dev tmpfs Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 5:29 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 6:17 ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 6:43 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 6:55 ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 7:03 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 10:52 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:38 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-01 11:44 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:03 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 11:11 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 13:18 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 13:24 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 7:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 13:46 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 15:18 ` Andy Lutomirski
2009-05-02 15:35 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 18:20 ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-02 19:55 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:47 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 16:20 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2009-05-04 16:53 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 17:54 ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-04 18:13 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 18:55 ` Michael Riepe
2009-05-04 19:13 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-04 19:30 ` Greg KH
2009-05-02 1:24 ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02 1:48 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 2:02 ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02 2:28 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 4:42 ` Brian Swetland
2009-05-02 13:30 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:01 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-01 11:02 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:16 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 19:26 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 21:59 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 22:21 ` Andrew Morton
2009-05-01 6:57 ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 14:01 ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 15:43 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 16:04 ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 21:13 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 15:53 ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 16:09 ` Greg KH
2009-05-01 16:17 ` Chris Wedgwood
2009-05-01 10:19 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 11:13 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 12:38 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-01 13:12 ` Alan Cox
2009-05-02 15:03 ` Kyle Moffett
2009-05-01 14:55 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-01 11:41 ` Hugh Dickins
2009-05-01 11:59 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 7:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-05-02 11:34 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 20:22 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:39 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 22:04 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-03 7:29 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-05-02 21:41 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-05-02 21:54 ` Greg KH
2009-05-02 21:59 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-02 16:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2009-05-02 17:57 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-06 12:56 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07 1:41 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-07 2:08 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07 2:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-05-07 2:40 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-14 9:28 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-07 8:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-07 9:28 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-07 14:43 ` Theodore Tso
2009-05-07 15:13 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-10 0:29 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-05-10 0:56 ` Kay Sievers
2009-05-10 2:11 ` Eric W. Biederman
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