From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmware.com>
Cc: "Pallipadi\, Venkatesh" <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
Linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Siddha\, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.29 pat issue
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:11:41 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1tz78pdwy.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <498B5ADE.3090602@vmware.com> (Thomas Hellstrom's message of "Thu\, 05 Feb 2009 22\:32\:14 +0100")
Thomas Hellstrom <thellstrom@vmware.com> writes:
> Indeed, it's crucial to keep the mappings consistent, but failure to do so is a
> kernel driver bug, it should never be the result of invalid user data.
It easily can be. Think of an X server mmaping frame buffers. Or other
device bars.
> There are other more common kernel bugs that can be even worse and hang / crash
> the system. For example using uninitialized spinlocks, writing to kfreed memory
> etc. There is code in the kernel to detect these as well, but this code is
> behind debug defines.
There are cpu errata on almost every cpu in existence that come into play
if you have the cacheabilty attributes wrong on a page. CPUs have been known
to do very weird things when you hit those errata. At the best of it you
are no longer running on a deterministic machine, at the worst of it you
crash the cpu.
> IMHO checking each vm_insert_pfn() for caching attribute correctness is not
> something that should be enabled by default, due to the CPU overhead. Production
> drivers should never violate this.
If it is a problem the implementation should become more efficient. Userspace
as well as drivers can generate these mappings so even with a perfect driver
you cannot guarantee that someone else does not have that area of memory
mapped differently.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-02-06 1:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-02-05 12:47 2.6.29 pat issue Thomas Hellström
2009-02-05 18:03 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-02-05 21:32 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2009-02-05 23:08 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-02-06 9:51 ` Thomas Hellström
2009-02-06 1:11 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2009-02-06 9:43 ` Thomas Hellström
2009-03-04 6:08 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-04 9:56 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2009-03-06 22:38 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-06 23:44 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2009-03-10 1:39 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-10 8:22 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2009-03-10 17:42 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-11 9:17 ` Thomas Hellstrom
2009-03-11 9:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-11 17:54 ` [PATCH] VM, x86, PAT: Change implementation of is_linear_pfn_mapping Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-11 22:09 ` Frans Pop
2009-03-12 0:31 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-12 3:22 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-12 5:45 ` Frans Pop
2009-03-12 18:59 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-12 20:30 ` Frans Pop
2009-03-12 22:48 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-13 0:36 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-03-13 0:45 ` [PATCH] VM, x86, PAT: Change is_linear_pfn_mapping to not use vm_pgoff Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-13 4:03 ` [tip:x86/urgent] " Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-13 16:25 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-13 17:00 ` Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-14 2:52 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-13 23:35 ` [PATCH] Add a new vm flag to track full pfnmap at mmap Pallipadi, Venkatesh
2009-03-14 2:53 ` Nick Piggin
2009-03-14 8:54 ` [tip:x86/urgent] VM, x86, PAT: add " Pallipadi, Venkatesh
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