From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Marcin Slusarz <marcin.slusarz@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] parport/ppdev: fix registration of sysctl entries
Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:25:30 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1tzf3z7n9.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080706081126.GA28946@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (Al Viro's message of "Sun, 6 Jul 2008 09:11:26 +0100")
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> writes:
> On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 11:49:26PM -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> So our choices appear to be.
>> - Change the name in sysctl so each parport device always has a unique name.
>> - Only allow one opener of ppdev for a given port.
>
> Can't do - it's a legitimate use of ppdev (several userland programs
> multiplexing the sucker).
Yep. And if didn't happen we wouldn't have the bug report.
>
>> - Take the approach of the initial patch and export to sysctl when we claim
>> the port and unexport when we release the port.
>
> You do realize that we need exclusion around that lazy registration in
> any case? sysctl is not the only problem there...
Totally. I was giving credit to the general idea rather then refering
to specific implementation details.
>> - Give up and simply don't register with sysctl for ppdev.
>>
>> I did a quick google search and I could not find any hits (except for
>> this bug report on devices/ppdev) so I am inclined just to special
>> case ppdev and not even bother registering with sysctl. I did not
>> see any other fields that would have problems with a duplicate name.
>>
>> The only other backwards compatible and viable approach appears
>> to be registering ppdev parport devices when they are claimed.
>>
>> The only reason we would be able to change the name without breakage
>> is if no one uses the /proc interface in which case I don't see a
>> point in continuing to provide it for ppdev.
>
> Not quite. /proc/sys/.../timeslice is a generically documented way to
> tune the damn thing when we have several things on the same port. Note
> that while one of those might be in userland, the rest might be in kernel
> and very different. In this case the parameter is both relevant *and*
> currently usable.
Yes. I was only thinking about killing it off for ppdev. You do have a point
something that is tuning this based on all openers could be looking at it
generically.
> Frankly, I'd go for IDR and rename in cases when we have additional openers.
It looks like we can walk port->physport->devices to see if we are the
first ppdev to register. So that should not be too hard.
That will provide maximum compatibility. Right now the first ppdev on
a minor shows up in sysctl and the rest error out sysctl wise. Having
the others show up at a different name is exactly equivalent except
that they show up.
The unfortunate thing is that we won't have a good way to tie those
additional sysctl entries back to whoever opened them. Oh well.
> _And_ add a mutex around delayed allocation - that's a separate problem.
Yes. We need locking so that only one process can set or clear PP_CLAIMED.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-06 9:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-05 13:21 [PATCH] parport/ppdev: fix registration of sysctl entries Marcin Slusarz
2008-07-05 23:51 ` Al Viro
2008-07-06 0:11 ` Al Viro
2008-07-06 4:05 ` Al Viro
2008-07-06 6:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-07-06 8:11 ` Al Viro
2008-07-06 9:25 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-07-06 16:22 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-06 16:08 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-06 17:00 ` Eduard - Gabriel Munteanu
2008-07-06 18:09 ` Alan Cox
2008-07-06 15:12 ` Marcin Slusarz
2008-07-06 15:07 ` Marcin Slusarz
2008-07-06 16:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-06 20:35 ` Al Viro
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