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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/23] tref: Implement task references.
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 10:48:05 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1u0afe7xm.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4408753B.52E3B003@tv-sign.ru> (Oleg Nesterov's message of "Fri, 03 Mar 2006 19:56:27 +0300")

Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> writes:

> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>
>> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru> writes:
>>
>> > I think there is another, much simpler solution. We can make a "reference"
> to
>> > the
>> > pid itself to protect it against free_pidmap(), so that this pid can't be
>> > reused.
>>
>> However with my trivial hostile program I can with 32 or 33 living processes
>> each with 1000 references to dead processes I can completely saturate the
>> default pid map.  And it won't be obvious why alloc_pidmap is failing.
>
> Yes, this is a problem. Please see the new version below. Instead of delaying
> pid releasing, free_pidmap() just invalidates pid_ref. The code becomes even
> simpler.

And it removes most of my interaction problem with multiple pid spaces.

>> Your resource consumption with the extra hash table is higher than
>> mine at until very high process counts.
>
> The size of ref_array[] could be arbitrary low (we can't use pid_hashfn() in
> this case, of course). And tref adds 4 * sizeof(void*) to every task, and it
> is much more complicated.

I guess the worst case behavior would be triggered by a find in /proc.
Which would probably populate a ref for every pid, and it isn't that
uncommon.   So I suspect we really want to make ref_array be able to
use pid hashfn as it is likely to get an equal amount of use.

More comments when I have time.

Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-03 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-23 15:52 [PATCH 00/23] proc cleanup Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 15:54 ` [PATCH 01/23] tref: Implement task references Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 15:56   ` [PATCH 02/23] proc: Fix the .. inode number on /proc/<pid>/fd Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 15:57     ` [PATCH 03/23] proc: Remove useless BKL in proc_pid_readlink Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 15:58       ` [PATCH 04/23] proc: Remove unnecessary and misleading assignments from proc_pid_make_inode Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:00         ` [PATCH 05/23] proc: Simplify the ownership rules for /proc Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:02           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:04           ` [PATCH 06/23] proc: Replace proc_inode.type with proc_inode.fd Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:05             ` [PATCH 07/23] proc: Remove bogus proc_task_permission Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:06               ` [PATCH 08/23] proc: Kill proc_mem_inode_operations Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:08                 ` [PATCH 09/23] proc: Properly filter out files that are not visible to a process Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:10                   ` [PATCH 10/23] proc: Fix the link count for /proc/<pid>/task Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:12                     ` [PATCH 11/23] proc: Move proc_maps_operations into task_mmu.c Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:15                       ` [PATCH 12/23] proc: Rewrite the proc dentry flush on exit optimization Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:16                         ` [PATCH 13/23] proc: Close the race of a process dying durning lookup Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:18                           ` [PATCH 14/23] proc: Make PROC_NUMBUF the buffer size for holding a integers as strings Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:20                             ` [PATCH 15/23] proc: refactor reading directories of tasks Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:23                               ` [PATCH 16/23] proc: Don't lock task_structs indefinitely Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:24                                 ` [PATCH 17/23] proc: Give the root directory a task Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:25                                   ` [PATCH 18/23] proc: Reorder the functions in base.c Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:27                                     ` [PATCH 19/23] proc: Modify proc_pident_lookup to be completely table driven Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:28                                       ` [PATCH 20/23] proc: Make the generation of the self symlink " Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:30                                         ` [PATCH 21/23] proc: Factor out an instantiate method from every lookup method Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:32                                           ` [PATCH 22/23] proc: Remove the hard coded inode numbers Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:34                                             ` [PATCH 23/23] proc: Merge proc_tid_attr and proc_tgid_attr Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-23 16:49   ` [PATCH 01/23] tref: Implement task references Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-02 19:16     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-02 20:37       ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-02 22:19       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-03 16:56         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-03 17:48           ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2006-03-04 11:16           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-04 12:31             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-04 17:30               ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-06 21:06         ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-06 22:18           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-07 20:44             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-07  1:39           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-07 20:38             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-07 13:12           ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-07 21:02             ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-07 23:00               ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-03-03 19:23     ` Oleg Nesterov
2006-03-04 10:51       ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-25 12:27 ` [PATCH 00/23] proc cleanup Andrew Morton
2006-02-25 13:34   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-25 15:20   ` Eric W. Biederman
2006-02-27 15:26 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2006-02-27 15:56   ` Eric W. Biederman

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