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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Cort Dougan <cort@fsmlabs.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken
Date: 20 Jun 2002 23:34:54 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1vg8dry81.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020620103003.C6243@host110.fsmlabs.com>

Cort Dougan <cort@fsmlabs.com> writes:

> "Beating the SMP horse to death" does make sense for 2 processor SMP
> machines.  When 64 processor machines become commodity (Linux is a
> commodity hardware OS) something will have to be done.  When research
> groups put Linux on 1k processors - it's an experiment.  I don't think they
> have much right to complain that Linux doesn't scale up to that level -
> it's not designed to.
> 
> That being said, large clusters are an interesting research area but it is
> _not_ a failing of Linux that it doesn't scale to them.

Linux in a classic beowulf configuration scales just fine.   To be clear
I am talking a batch scheduling system, where the jobs which run for
hours at a time and on many nodes, possibly the entire cluster at a
time. Are scheduled on some number of commodity systems, with a good
network interconnect.

The concern now is not does it work, or does it work well.  But can
it be made more convenient to use.  

Eric


  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-21  5:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-18 17:18 latest linus-2.5 BK broken James Simmons
2002-06-18 17:46 ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 18:51   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 18:43     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 18:56     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 18:59       ` Robert Love
2002-06-18 20:05       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:05         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 20:31           ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 21:12               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 21:08                 ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-18 21:47                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 12:29                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-19 17:27                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20  3:57                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20  5:24                           ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-20  7:26                             ` Andreas Dilger
2002-06-20 14:54                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-20 15:41                             ` McVoy's Clusters (was Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken) Sandy Harris
2002-06-20 17:10                               ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-20 20:42                                 ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-06-21  5:16                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 14:14                               ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-20 16:30                           ` latest linus-2.5 BK broken Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 17:15                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-21  6:15                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-21 17:50                                 ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-21 17:55                                   ` Robert Love
2002-06-21 18:09                                   ` Linux, the microkernel (was Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken) Jeff Garzik
2002-06-21 18:46                                     ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-21 20:25                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-06-22  1:07                                         ` Horst von Brand
2002-06-22  1:23                                           ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-22 12:41                                             ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-23 15:15                                             ` Sandy Harris
2002-06-23 17:29                                               ` Jakob Oestergaard
2002-06-24  6:27                                               ` Craig I. Hagan
2002-06-24 13:06                                                 ` J.A. Magallon
2002-06-24 10:59                                               ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-21 19:34                                     ` Rob Landley
2002-06-22 15:31                                       ` Alan Cox
2002-06-22 12:24                                         ` Rob Landley
2002-06-22 19:00                                           ` Ruth Ivimey-Cook
2002-06-22 21:09                                         ` jdow
2002-06-23 17:56                                           ` John Alvord
2002-06-23 20:48                                             ` jdow
2002-06-23 21:40                                         ` [OT] " Xavier Bestel
2002-06-22 18:25                                   ` latest linus-2.5 BK broken Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 19:26                                     ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-22 22:25                                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-06-22 23:10                                         ` Larry McVoy
2002-06-23  6:34                                       ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-23 22:56                                       ` Kai Henningsen
2002-06-20 17:16                             ` RW Hawkins
2002-06-20 17:23                               ` Cort Dougan
2002-06-20 20:40                             ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 20:53                               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:27                                 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 21:37                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:59                                     ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 22:18                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 22:41                                         ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-21  0:09                                           ` Allen Campbell
2002-06-21  7:43                                       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-21 21:02                                       ` Rob Landley
2002-06-22  3:57                                         ` (RFC)i386 arch autodetect( was Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken ) Matthew D. Pitts
2002-06-22  4:54                                           ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-06-21 16:01                                     ` Re: latest linus-2.5 BK broken Sandy Harris
2002-06-21 20:38                                   ` Rob Landley
2002-06-20 21:13                               ` Timothy D. Witham
2002-06-21 19:53                               ` Rob Landley
2002-06-21  5:34                             ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2002-06-19 10:21                   ` Padraig Brady
2002-06-18 21:45                 ` Bill Huey
2002-06-18 20:55             ` Robert Love
2002-06-19 13:31               ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 19:29     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:19       ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 19:49         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-06-18 19:27           ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2002-06-18 20:13       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-18 20:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-18 22:03         ` Ingo Molnar
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-18 23:38 Michael Hohnbaum
2002-06-18 23:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19  0:08   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-06-19  1:00   ` Matthew Dobson
2002-06-19 23:48   ` Michael Hohnbaum
     [not found] <E17KSLb-0007Dj-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au>
2002-06-19  0:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 15:23   ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-19 16:28     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-19 20:57       ` Rusty Russell
2002-06-20 23:48 Miles Lane
2002-06-21  7:31 Martin Knoblauch
2002-06-21 12:59 Jesse Pollard
2002-06-24 21:28 Paul McKenney

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