From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: oleg@redhat.com, ebiederm@xmission.com, roland@redhat.com,
bastian@waldi.eu.org, daniel@hozac.com, xemul@openvz.org,
containers@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
sukadev@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/6][v3] Container-init signal semantics
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:55:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1wsds5vij.fsf@frodo.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081221005106.GA4912@us.ibm.com> (Sukadev Bhattiprolu's message of "Sat, 20 Dec 2008 16:51:06 -0800")
Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
> This patchset implements the design/simplified semantics suggested by
> Oleg Nesterov. The simplified semantics for container-init are:
>
> - container-init must never be terminated by a signal from a
> descendant process.
>
> - container-init must never be immune to SIGKILL from an ancestor
> namespace (so a process in parent namespace must always be able
> to terminate a descendant container).
>
> - container-init may be immune to unhandled fatal signals (like
> SIGUSR1) even if they are from ancestor namespace (SIGKILL is
> the only reliable signal from ancestor namespace).
It sounds you are still struggling to get something that works and gets
done what needs to be done. So let me suggest a simplified semantic that
should be easier to implement and test, and solves the biggest problem
that we must solve in the kernel.
- container-init ignores SIGKILL and SIGSTOP.
- container-init is responsible for setting the rest of the signals
to SIG_IGN.
If that isn't enough for all of the init's we can go back and
solve more in kernel land. That simplified semantic is certainly
enough for sysvinit.
> Limitations/side-effects of current design
>
> - Container-init is immune to suicide - kill(getpid(), SIGKILL) is
> ignored. Use exit() :-)
That sounds like correct behavior.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-22 10:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-21 0:51 [RFC][PATCH 0/6][v3] Container-init signal semantics Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-21 0:52 ` [RFC][PATCH 1/6][v3] Remove 'handler' parameter to tracehook functions Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-23 19:30 ` Roland McGrath
2008-12-21 0:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 2/6][v3] Protect init from unwanted signals more Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-23 19:31 ` Roland McGrath
2008-12-21 0:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 3/6][v3] Define/set SIGNAL_UNKILLABLE_FROM_NS Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-21 0:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 4/6][v3] Define siginfo_from_ancestor_ns() Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-22 22:26 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-22 23:01 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-22 23:58 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-23 0:22 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-23 0:32 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-23 4:47 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-22 23:45 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-22 23:54 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-21 0:54 ` [RFC][PATCH 5/6][v3] Protect cinit from unblocked SIG_DFL signals Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-22 22:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-21 0:55 ` [RFC][PATCH 6/6][v3] Protect cinit from blocked fatal signals Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-22 22:58 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-22 23:38 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-23 0:03 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-12-22 10:55 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-12-22 19:47 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/6][v3] Container-init signal semantics Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-23 0:27 ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-12-23 2:12 ` Sukadev Bhattiprolu
2008-12-23 16:51 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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