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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com>
Cc: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	torvalds@transmeta.com,
	Matthew Kirkwood <matthew@hairy.beasts.org>,
	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>,
	David Axmark <david@mysql.com>,
	William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semaphores...
Date: 28 Feb 2002 21:44:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1y9hc3nif.fsf@frodo.biederman.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E16eT9h-0000kE-00@wagner.rustcorp.com.au> <20020225100025.A1163@elinux01.watson.ibm.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020225100025.A1163@elinux01.watson.ibm.com>

Hubertus Franke <frankeh@watson.ibm.com> writes:

> Rusty, since I supplied one of those packages available under
> lse.sourceforge.net
> 
> let me make some comments.
> 
> (a) why do you need to pin. I simply use the user level address (vaddr)  
>     and hash with the <mm,vaddr> to obtain the internal object.
>     This also gives me full protection through the general vmm mechanisms.

Do: 
if (page->mapping) 
    hash(page->mapping, page->offset, vaddr & ~PAGE_MASK)
else
    hash(mm, vaddr)
This handles the semaphores in shared memory case.  So the semaphores
will work across processes as well.

> (c) creation can be done on demand, that's what I do. If you never have 
>     to synchronize through the kernel than you don't create the objects. 
>     There should be an option to force explicite creation if desired.

Which makes the uncontended (common) case fast.

> (d) The kernel should simply provide waiting and wakeup functionality and 
>     the bean counting should be done in user space. There is no need to 
>     pin or crossmap.

Agreed.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-03-01  4:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-23  3:47 [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semaphores Rusty Russell
2002-02-23 15:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-23 18:20   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-23 18:28     ` Larry McVoy
2002-02-23 20:31       ` Ingo Molnar
2002-02-23 21:22       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-26 16:09     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-24 23:29   ` Rusty Russell
2002-02-24 23:48     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25  1:10       ` Rusty Russell
2002-02-25  1:23         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 13:14           ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 16:11             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 16:39               ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 16:32                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-02-25 17:42                   ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 18:23                   ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-25 20:57                     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-03  7:07                   ` Rusty Russell
2002-02-25 17:06                 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 17:31                   ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 17:20                     ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 17:50                       ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 17:44                         ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-25 18:06                           ` Alan Cox
2002-02-25 19:31                             ` Linus Torvalds
2002-02-24  4:57                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-02-25 19:51                             ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-26 12:15                       ` [PATCH] 2.5.5 IDE clean 14 Martin Dalecki
2002-02-26 21:49                         ` Keith Owens
2002-02-27 10:08                           ` Martin Dalecki
2002-03-01  4:56           ` [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semaphores Eric W. Biederman
2002-03-02 14:54       ` Pavel Machek
2002-02-25 15:00 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-27  0:24   ` Rusty Russell
2002-02-27 15:53     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-01  0:24       ` Richard Henderson
2002-03-01  2:00         ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-27 16:29     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-02 14:50     ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-03 13:30       ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-04 16:51         ` Hubertus Franke
2002-03-05  4:41           ` Rusty Russell
2002-03-01  4:44   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-27  8:43 [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semphores Martin Wirth
2002-02-27 15:24 ` Hubertus Franke
2002-02-27 17:17   ` Martin Wirth
2002-02-27 19:04     ` Hubertus Franke
     [not found]       ` <3C7FDF76.9040903@dlr.de>
2002-03-02 14:08         ` [PATCH] Lightweight userspace semaphores Hubertus Franke
     [not found] <20020227163834.GF322@reload.nmd.msu.ru>
2002-02-27 16:58 ` Hubertus Franke
     [not found]   ` <20020227173307.GH322@reload.nmd.msu.ru>
2002-02-27 22:09     ` Hubertus Franke

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