From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
suparna@in.ibm.com, fastboot@osdl.org, mbligh@aracnet.com,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@engr.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [Fastboot] Re: Announce: dumpfs v0.01 - common RAS output API
Date: 29 Jul 2004 09:47:01 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1zn5ike8a.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1091109602.851.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
> On Iau, 2004-07-29 at 02:12, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > Or those devices that hang the machine when you clear it.
>
> There are none. Its required by the PCI spec and used by BIOS vendors
> during the boot sequence. So its a *tested* approach.
Enabling is required. Clearing is not. The particular instance I was
thinking of was disabling memory access and leaving I/O enabled.
> > And there is the fact that the pci configuration access methods
> > are frequently BIOS calls.
>
> You will be running bios code on some systems every time you read
> the cmos clock, every time you touch pci config space, every time
> you hit a key, even in your new kernel boot up path - whats your
> point
Only that in many instances BIOS code can do things we don't expect.
And when we start out with the machine in an unknown state the
risk is worse.
> > So I do see just clearing the master bit on each PCI devices to
> > as dangerous as calling the shutdown methods.
>
> Then we violently disagree
yes.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-07-29 15:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-22 16:19 Announce: dumpfs v0.01 - common RAS output API Keith Owens
2004-07-26 6:57 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-28 1:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-28 10:54 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2004-07-28 10:46 ` [Fastboot] " Alan Cox
2004-07-28 14:38 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-28 14:06 ` Alan Cox
2004-07-28 15:21 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-28 15:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-28 17:09 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-07-28 16:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-28 15:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-28 15:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-28 15:23 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-28 15:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-28 16:03 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-28 18:00 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-28 18:06 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-28 19:42 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-28 19:56 ` [Fastboot] " Alan Cox
2004-07-28 19:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-28 23:11 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-28 22:53 ` Alan Cox
2004-07-29 1:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-29 14:00 ` Alan Cox
2004-07-29 15:47 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2004-07-28 18:21 ` Alan Cox
2004-07-28 19:23 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-28 20:28 ` [Fastboot] " Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-28 20:33 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-28 19:59 ` Alan Cox
2004-07-28 22:42 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-28 22:44 ` Jesse Barnes
2004-07-28 23:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-28 22:55 ` Alan Cox
2004-07-29 0:22 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-29 13:57 ` Alan Cox
2004-07-29 18:17 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-29 21:20 ` Alan Cox
2004-07-29 22:30 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2004-07-30 0:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-29 23:25 ` Alan Cox
2004-07-30 4:07 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-30 12:38 ` Gerrit Huizenga
2004-07-31 13:52 ` Matthias Urlichs
2004-07-30 15:24 ` Olivier Galibert
2004-07-29 1:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-29 14:12 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-28 23:44 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-29 0:58 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-29 1:09 ` Andrew Morton
2004-07-29 1:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-29 14:18 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-29 16:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-29 16:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-29 14:08 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-29 15:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2004-07-29 16:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2004-07-29 17:12 ` Matthias Urlichs
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-07-30 15:02 Manfred Spraul
2004-07-30 14:42 ` Alan Cox
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