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From: Jan Rychter <jan@rychter.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Fix up power managment in 2.6
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 03:29:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m21xuzjxeo.fsf@tnuctip.rychter.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0309011509450.5614-100000@cherise

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>>>>> "Patrick" == Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>:
[...]
 Patrick> Power management has not worked for a majority of users for a
 Patrick> long time. It's in dire need of someone with motivation,
 Patrick> direction, and the time to make it work properly, and get it
 Patrick> on par with some of our contemporary OSes. I'm trying to be
 Patrick> that person, and actually fix things in the long run, rather
 Patrick> than encouraging people to "fix it themselves".
[...]

I'd like to throw in some comments from a user's point of view.

I've been using software suspend for quite a long time now. I was happy
when Pavel made it work back when he first got to it. I was a bit less
happy when it turned out that it doesn't really work all that well. Then
I was happy again when Nigel Cunningham put in a *lot* of hard work
(which he still does now) and made the 2.4 swsusp code nice and
stable. The result of Nigel's work is code that allows me 2-3 weeks of
uptime on my laptop with several suspends a day.

In the meantime, the 2.5 version hasn't really gone anywhere
interesting. It did not work for me when it was first merged, and it did
not work in -test3 either. People reporting problems were mostly told to
fix things themselves (which shows a blatant disregard for testers'
time, a common pitfall for people that write code).

Being a maintainer IMHO means fixing things, not standing in an ivory
"maintainer" tower and shouting at people.

Therefore, I couldn't agree more with Patrick. I am very happy to see
that someone actually cares about the code, tries to clean it up and fix
things. I hope things _will_ get fixed over time. And I certainly think
that Patrick's cleanups and refactoring are better than the constantly
broken state that software suspend was in.

--J.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-09-02  8:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-31 23:28 Fix up power managment in 2.6 Pavel Machek
2003-09-01  6:57 ` Russell King
2003-09-01  8:11   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01  8:26     ` Russell King
2003-09-01  9:33       ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 16:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-09-01 21:12   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 21:52     ` Russell King
2003-09-01 22:19       ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 22:30         ` Russell King
2003-09-01 22:40           ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 22:48             ` Russell King
2003-09-02 17:17             ` Greg KH
2003-09-03 15:13               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02 10:21           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-09-03 13:02             ` Alan Cox
2003-09-03 13:31               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-09-03 17:08               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 20:42             ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-01 22:55     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-01 23:38       ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02  0:52         ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-02  9:02           ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02  9:47           ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-02 16:11             ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-03 16:21               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-03 23:17                 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-03 17:49               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-03 17:59                 ` bill davidsen
2003-09-03 23:20                 ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-05  9:33                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-03 20:03               ` Bill Davidsen
2003-09-03 22:14                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-04  4:06                   ` Bill Davidsen
2003-09-04 14:52                     ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-02 10:29       ` Jan Rychter [this message]
2003-09-05  5:58       ` Rob Landley
2003-09-05 10:26         ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 10:56           ` Michael Frank
2003-09-05 11:08             ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 11:51               ` Michael Frank
2003-09-05 12:01                 ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 17:47         ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-05 18:02           ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-05 18:13             ` Patrick Mochel
2003-09-05 21:46               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-05 18:57             ` Rob Landley
2003-09-05 19:06               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 20:09                 ` Keyboard stuff (was Re: Fix up power managment in 2.6) Rob Landley
2003-09-05 20:31                   ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 20:01             ` Fix up power managment in 2.6 Richard A Nelson
2003-09-05 21:45               ` Jeff Garzik
2003-09-05 18:49           ` Pavel Machek
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2003-09-05 20:13 Nicolas Mailhot

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