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From: John Fremlin <chief@bandits.org>
To: Avery Pennarun <apenwarr@worldvisions.ca>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, <sfr@linuxcare.com.au>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Let init know user wants to shutdown
Date: 18 Apr 2001 22:34:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m21yqp51uj.fsf@boreas.yi.org.> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m27l0i58i3.fsf@boreas.yi.org.> <E14pyHg-0005cJ-00@the-village.bc.nu> <20010418170532.A6306@worldvisions.ca>
In-Reply-To: Avery Pennarun's message of "Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:05:32 -0400"

 Avery Pennarun <apenwarr@worldvisions.ca> writes:

> On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 09:10:37PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> 
> > > willing to exercise this power. We would not break compatibility with
> > > any std kernel by instead having a apmd send a "reject all" ioctl
> > > instead, and so deal with events without having the pressure of having
> > > to reject or accept them, and let us remove all the veto code from the
> > > kernel driver. Or am I missing something?
> > 
> > That sounds workable. But the same program could reply to the events just
> > as well as issue the ioctl 8)
> 
> AFAICT some APM BIOSes get impatient if you don't acknowledge/reject
> the requests fast enough, and start to go bananas.  By always
> rejecting requests and then making user requests instead at some
> time later, we might eliminate this problem (or just cause new
> ones).

Indeed. Neither proposal has however received wide testing as far as I
know. The userspace ACCEPT/REJECT method was available as a patch from
Stephen for a while though.

> Also, I don't think the "critical suspend" message can be rejected
> at all, so it would have to be a special case where currently I
> don't think it's too bad.

ATM it is a "special case" - we print a message if we try to reject a
critical suspend. However the case is not so special that it requires
more than a line or two ;-)

I don't think there is any cause for concern on that front.

[...]

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	http://www.penguinpowered.com/~vii

  reply	other threads:[~2001-04-18 21:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-04-18  0:07 Let init know user wants to shutdown Grover, Andrew
2001-04-18  0:51 ` Alan Cox
2001-04-18  1:56   ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 11:55     ` Alan Cox
2001-04-18 19:10       ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 20:10         ` Alan Cox
2001-04-18 20:21           ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 21:05           ` Avery Pennarun
2001-04-18 21:34             ` John Fremlin [this message]
2001-04-20 17:02         ` Pavel Machek
2001-05-02 16:52           ` John Fremlin
2001-04-20 17:01     ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-20 23:41       ` John Fremlin
2001-04-21  7:54         ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-24  0:17         ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-24  1:08           ` John Fremlin
2001-04-24 10:06           ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-25 14:28             ` Jamie Lokier
2001-04-25 16:11               ` Richard Gooch
2001-04-18  1:54 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-19  3:54   ` Next gen PM interface John Fremlin
2001-04-19  4:07     ` Alan Cox
2001-04-19  5:08     ` Patrick Mochel
2001-04-19 18:57       ` John Fremlin
2001-04-19 19:09         ` Patrick Mochel
2001-04-19 19:30           ` John Fremlin
2001-04-19 19:07       ` John Fremlin
2001-04-20 17:08         ` Pavel Machek
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-04-18 22:52 Let init know user wants to shutdown Grover, Andrew
2001-04-26 22:10 ` David S. Miller
2001-04-18 21:46 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-18 22:09 ` David S. Miller
2001-04-18 22:30 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-19  2:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-19 12:04 ` David Woodhouse
2001-04-18 18:28 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-18 18:45 ` Jeff Garzik
2001-04-18 19:36 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-17 16:45 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-17 19:54 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-17 22:23 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-18 15:26 ` Simon Richter
2001-04-18 19:51   ` John Fremlin
2001-04-16 23:32 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-17  6:40 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-17  6:41 ` Simon Richter
2001-04-17 11:16 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-12 17:25 David Balazic
2001-04-16  7:03 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-11 17:06 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-11 18:29 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-11  4:31 alad
2001-04-10 17:05 Grover, Andrew
2001-04-11  4:23 ` John R Lenton
2001-04-11 14:59   ` John Fremlin
2001-04-11 12:20 ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-11 15:10   ` John Fremlin
2001-04-11 14:56 ` John Fremlin
2001-04-04 22:02 Pavel Machek
2001-04-10 23:20 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-04-10 23:30   ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-04-10 23:38   ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-04-10 23:46     ` Kurt Roeckx
2001-04-10 23:53     ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-04-10 23:41   ` Mike Castle
2001-04-13  0:29     ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-16 12:42       ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 15:49         ` Andreas Ferber
2001-04-16 16:25           ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 21:27             ` Pavel Machek
2001-04-16 21:44               ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 22:38                 ` Andreas Ferber
2001-04-17  6:16                   ` Simon Richter
2001-04-17  8:39                     ` Andreas Ferber
2001-04-17 14:09                       ` Simon Richter
2001-04-16 21:36         ` Ben Ford
     [not found] ` <9b04food@ncc1701.cistron.net>
     [not found]   ` <9b052eod@ncc1701.cistron.net>
2001-04-13  0:26     ` Pavel Machek

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