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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@MIT.EDU>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	lueckintel@yahoo.com, kimwooyoung@gmail.com,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Suresh Siddha <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>
Subject: NACK! Re: [PATCH 4/4] Add vsyscalls to feature-removal-schedule.txt
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 11:25:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m24o1mmqr8.fsf_-_@firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <066852f3f344c1733e0db9a2427981ea1815db7d.1312899174.git.luto@mit.edu> (Andy Lutomirski's message of "Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:27:50 -0400")

Andy Lutomirski <luto@MIT.EDU> writes:

> In a couple years, we'll see how well we've done at eradicating vsyscall-using
> binaries.  Hopefully we can then disable them by default.  We will probably
> have to leave the option to enable them around forever.

NACK NACK NACK!

this would break all old (old = meaning all today's) x86-64 installations. 

Sorry but I don't think feature removal should be ever for anything
commonly used, especially not for anything used by nearly 
EVERY binary on an old installation. We usually use it 
for obscure things used rarely.

Repeat after me: BINARY COMPATIBILITY is important.
It's not a joke. It's not a toy. It's one of the basic values
of Linux.

Sorry to be honest I don't know how you can even suggest
such a thing with a straight face.

-Andi

-- 
ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only

  reply	other threads:[~2011-08-12 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-08-09 14:27 [PATCH 0/4] vsyscall tweaks Andy Lutomirski
2011-08-09 14:27 ` [PATCH 1/4] x86-64: Allow emulated vsyscalls from user addresses Andy Lutomirski
2011-08-09 18:59   ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-08-09 19:16     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-09 14:27 ` [PATCH 2/4] x86: Remove unnecessary compile flag tweaks for vsyscall code Andy Lutomirski
2011-08-09 14:27 ` [PATCH 3/4] x86-64: Wire up getcpu syscall Andy Lutomirski
2011-08-09 14:27 ` [PATCH 4/4] Add vsyscalls to feature-removal-schedule.txt Andy Lutomirski
2011-08-12 18:25   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2011-08-12 19:13     ` NACK! " Andrew Lutomirski
2011-08-17 20:35       ` Ingo Molnar

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