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From: Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi <abd.masalkhi@gmail.com>
To: John Garry <john.g.garry@oracle.com>,
	song@kernel.org, yukuai@fygo.io, magiclinan@didiglobal.com,
	xiao@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, vverma@digitalocean.com,
	martin.petersen@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/7] md/raid1: advertise atomic write limits and handle runtime constraints
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2026 11:05:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2h5m97sx3.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fbf1a5d6-d362-4eeb-8434-2f4a114a70bd@oracle.com>


Hi John,

On Tue, Jul 07, 2026 at 17:20 +0100, John Garry wrote:
> On 06/07/2026 12:35, Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi wrote:
>>> well it seems to be that everything in the driver is split over
>>> BARRIER_UNIT_SECTOR_SIZE, so is in effect a chunk size.
>>>
>>> Note that atomic_write_hw_unit_max is going to be small always compared
>>> to BARRIER_UNIT_SECTOR_SIZE.
>>>
>>> However, can you check the blk stacking code to make sure that this does
>>> as you want? As I remember, for stacking we take the atomic write limits
>>> of the first bottom device and then stack the other bottom devices and I
>>> don't think that setting atomic_write_hw_unit_max in this way has an
>>> impact - see blk_stack_atomic_writes_limits()
>>>
>> I checked blk_stack_atomic_writes_limits(), and you are right: setting
>> atomic_write_hw_unit_max here alone does not have the intended effect on
>> the final stacked device.
>> 
>> Also, since atomic_write_hw_unit_max is expected to always be smaller
>> than BARRIER_UNIT_SECTOR_SIZE, 
>
> Yes, always expected to be much smaller.
>
>> it seems that there is no need to set an
>> additional atomic write limit in raid1, or even to set
>> atomic_write_hw_unit_max at all. Is that what you mean?
>
> Even though we expect it to be much smaller, it's good practice to 
> ensure this.
>
> One method to do so - which I already mentioned - was to set the chunk 
> size to BARRIER_UNIT_SECTOR_SIZE. You were not keen on that.
>

I see, thanks for the clarification. My concern was mainly conceptual,
and I was also worried that setting the chunk size might affect other
operations, such as discard. Since that is not the case, I'll set the
chunk size to BARRIER_UNIT_SECTOR_SIZE and update it accordingly in v2.

> Another method is to set max hw sectors for the RAID1 device to 
> BARRIER_UNIT_SECTOR_SIZE.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

-- 
Best Regards,
Abd-Alrhman

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-08  9:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-28 14:24 [PATCH v2 0/7] md/raid10: fixes, atomic write handling, and error-path cleanup Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi
2026-06-28 14:24 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] md/raid10: fix r10bio leak in raid10_write_request() error paths Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi
2026-06-28 14:24 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] md/raid1: advertise atomic write limits and handle runtime constraints Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi
2026-06-29 14:48   ` John Garry
2026-06-30  8:39     ` Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi
2026-07-03  8:28       ` John Garry
2026-07-06 11:35         ` Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi
2026-07-07 16:20           ` John Garry
2026-07-08  9:05             ` Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi [this message]
2026-06-28 14:24 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] md/raid10: consistently fail atomic writes that require splitting Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi
2026-06-28 14:24 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] md/raid10: remove unnecessary barrier around bio_submit_split_bioset() Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi
2026-06-28 14:24 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] md/raid10: replace wait loop with wait_event_idle() Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi
2026-06-28 14:24 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] md/raid10: simplify write request error handling Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi
2026-06-28 14:24 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] md/raid10: simplify read " Abd-Alrhman Masalkhi

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