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From: Michel Dagenais <michel.dagenais@polymtl.ca>
To: Brian Beattie <alchemy@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Martin@m3.polymtl.ca,
	"Martin.Bligh@us.ibm.com" <J.Bligh@m3.polymtl.ca>,
	Tony.P.Lee@nokia.com, kessler@us.ibm.com,
	alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, Dave Jones <davej@suse.de>,
	karym@opersys.com, lmcmpou@lmc.ericsson.se,
	lmcleve@lmc.ericsson.se
Subject: Re: Event logging vs enhancing printk
Date: 11 Apr 2002 11:11:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ofgqtgmz.fsf@m3.polymtl.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2it71uf4u.fsf@m3.polymtl.ca> <1018385394.7923.26.camel@w-beattie1>


> It would be easier, to fix the printk's, than to put evlogging into any
> particular piece of the kernel.

Fine, let's call evlog "an enhanced printk" and discuss the specific technical
details of the proposition.

> Evlog side-by-side with printk adds significat bloat.

Whenever you change/enhance such things you may need coexistance for a while.
However this is configurable, and to a certain extent temporary, bloat.

> > - Structured data events for which it is easier to apply filtering, querying,
> >   analysis and detection tools.
> 
> this is a post processing problem.
...
> What I hear you asking for, is to make it more of
> the kernels responsibilty easing the problem of analysing the out put,
> as opposed to making that the responsibilty of user space
> postprocessing.

Actually this is pushing the formatting out of the kernel, is more efficient,
and it leaves more flexibility to the logging daemon!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-04-11 14:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-08 23:18 Event logging vs enhancing printk Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-08 22:38 ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-08 23:54   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-08 23:07     ` Andrew Morton
2002-04-09  2:14       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-10  1:23         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-10  5:28           ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-11  0:15             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2002-04-09 14:34     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-04-09 14:50       ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-09 13:24 ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-04-09 14:42   ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-09 18:17     ` John Alvord
2002-04-09 14:21 ` Michel Dagenais
2002-04-09 20:49   ` Brian Beattie
2002-04-09 21:16     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-09 22:28       ` Brian Beattie
2002-04-10  0:29         ` Brian Beattie
2002-04-10  1:17         ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-10 11:24     ` Denis Vlasenko
2002-04-11 15:11     ` Michel Dagenais [this message]
     [not found] <OF7FF94B66.91DD315B-ON88256B95.00811EF0@boulder.ibm.com>
2002-04-10  8:21 ` Zoltan Menyhart
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-04-10 13:08 Michael Holzheu
     [not found] <OF58E93BB4.1862769F-ON85256B97.0047811A@pok.ibm.com>
2002-04-10 14:19 ` sullivan
2002-04-10 15:55 Larry Kessler
2002-04-10 17:13 Francois-Xavier Kowalski
2002-04-10 19:43 Larry Kessler
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0204111358000.20722-100000@coffee.psychology.mcmaster.ca>
2002-04-12  9:30 ` Zoltan Menyhart
2002-04-12 12:41   ` Mark Hahn
2002-04-12 14:38     ` Martin J. Bligh
2002-04-12 18:04       ` Karim Yaghmour

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