Re: 2.7 thoughts: common well-architected object model

retu
2003-10-12T16:51:22Z

nobody says that it belongs into the kernel rather
designed by core=kernel folks core-up, that is e.g.
not being a derivative of a set of all-encompassing
classes developed for an application.

I think the issue is serious and brushing it aside as
being non-kernel at first will come back biting.
What's going on could be described as being cornered.

--- Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 09:04:19 PDT, retu said:
>
> > What's the solution out of this - a clean, open
> object
> > model designed by the core folks, extensible and
> free
> > of licensing issues - and that in the next months.
>
>
> The point that seems to be continually missed is
> that although
> it may be a *fine* concept for userspace, it doesn't
> belong in the
> kernel. There's a syscall barrier for multiple
> reasons, some technical
> and some political/legal.
>
> If anything, we collectively DON'T want to go there
> because a clever lawyer
> could argue that doing a "all the way from kernel to
> userspace" object-oriented
> scheme would make essentially all userspace code a
> derived work, since it would
> be so tightly entwined with the kernel
> implementation (basically, you'd be
> subjecting all of userspace to the same "derived
> work" limbo that closed-source
> kernel modules currently live in). This could
> render totally irrelevant this
> text from /usr/src/linux/COPYING:
>
> NOTE! This copyright does *not* cover user
> programs that use kernel
> services by normal system calls - this is merely
> considered normal use
> of the kernel, and does *not* fall under the
> heading of "derived work".
> Also note that the GPL below is copyrighted by the
> Free Software
> Foundation, but the instance of code that it refers
> to (the Linux
> kernel) is copyrighted by me and others who
> actually wrote it.
>
> Yes, this would mean that userspace would be GPL'ed
> as well, and
> you'll never see Oracle on a Linux box again for a
> VERY long time....
>

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