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From: Doug McNaught <doug@wireboard.com>
To: Riley Williams <rhw@MemAlpha.cx>
Cc: Ville Herva <vherva@niksula.hut.fi>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Need blocking /dev/null
Date: 31 Oct 2001 19:11:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m31yjjz6ws.fsf@belphigor.mcnaught.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110312256030.28028-100000@Consulate.UFP.CX>
In-Reply-To: Riley Williams's message of "Wed, 31 Oct 2001 23:13:22 +0000 (GMT)"

Riley Williams <rhw@MemAlpha.cx> writes:

> Are you sure?
> 
> > find / -name "wanted-but-lost-download" | eat
> 
> Doesn't work - you're piping the stdin there, not stderr as per my
> example above. AFAIK, there's no way to pipe stderr without also piping
> stdout, hence this sort of solution just doesn't work.

The Bourne shell is more perverse than you realize:

$ exec 3>&1; find / -name "wanted-but-lost-download" 2>&1 1>&3 3>&- | eat

[stolen from "Csh Programming Considered Harmful" by Tom Christiansen]

Horrible, but does work.  ;) 

> > zerofill | head -c 1440k > /tmp/floppy.img
> 
> How does zerofill know when to stop writing zeros out?

Easy, it gets EPIPE on the write (or gets killed by SIGPIPE if it's
stupid). 

> > ssh foo@bar | block
> 
> Which of my examples is this an equivalent to? I don't recognise it.

None; he's referring to the /dev/block example that started the
thread.

I'm still happy to keep /dev/null and /dev/zero.  ;)

-Doug
-- 
Let us cross over the river, and rest under the shade of the trees.
   --T. J. Jackson, 1863

  reply	other threads:[~2001-11-01  0:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-29 21:07 Need blocking /dev/null Marko Rauhamaa
2001-10-29 21:24 ` Alan Cox
2001-10-30  3:52   ` Marko Rauhamaa
2001-10-30  7:02     ` Tim Connors
2001-10-30 16:04       ` Marko Rauhamaa
2001-10-31  0:51     ` Riley Williams
2001-10-31  9:23       ` Ville Herva
2001-10-31 23:13         ` Riley Williams
2001-11-01  0:11           ` Doug McNaught [this message]
2001-11-01  7:27             ` Ville Herva
2001-11-01  7:52             ` Abramo Bagnara
2001-11-01 23:51             ` Riley Williams
2001-11-02 19:53               ` Ville Herva
2001-11-02 20:04               ` John Adams
2001-11-02 20:32                 ` Ville Herva
2001-11-02 20:46                   ` Tim Walberg
2001-11-05 22:08                     ` Andreas Schwab
2001-11-01  7:24           ` Ville Herva
2001-10-29 21:45 ` Hugh Dickins
2001-10-29 23:03   ` elko
2001-10-29 23:12     ` Mike Fedyk

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