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From: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
To: Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@enter.net>
Cc: davids@webmaster.com,
	"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing
Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:27:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m34piaftnd.fsf@maximus.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200709032020.04989.dhazelton@enter.net> (Daniel Hazelton's message of "Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:19:56 -0400")

Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@enter.net> writes:

> US Copyright law. A copyright holder, regardless of what license he/she may 
> have released the work under, can still revoke the license for a specific 
> person or group of people. (There are some exceptions, but they do not apply 
> to the situation that is being discussed)

Oh come on, I thought some small country in maybe central Africa,
but certainly not USA.

What you write would essentially mean GPL (and any other such licence)
is invalid in the USA.

The licence is basically a promise not to sue. It wouldn't make any
sense to promise if you could revoke at will.

> Ah, see - in the US the license(s) in question (and licenses in general) are 
> grants of rights, not a "statements of will".

Right here grants of rights are some sort of statements of will.

> (Truthfully, in the US a license 
> should be read with an implicit "All rights reserved")

Actually (and I think it's the same in the USA), a copyrighted work
has an implicit "all rights reserved". A licence is just exception.
-- 
Krzysztof Halasa

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-04 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200709010140.l811eq9H005896@cvs.openbsd.org>
2007-09-01 16:48 ` Fwd: That whole "Linux stealing our code" thing Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 17:21   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-01 17:37     ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 20:54       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:16         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:51           ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 22:06             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 21:27         ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 21:52           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 23:29             ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-01 23:48               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-09-02  0:11                 ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  0:09               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02  0:53                 ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02 10:36                   ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02 11:20                     ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 11:50                       ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02 12:28                         ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 12:36                           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 12:46                           ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02 13:00                             ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 13:12                               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02 13:53                               ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02 13:57                               ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-02 14:11                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 15:58                                   ` Igor Sobrado
2007-09-02 18:23                                     ` Matthew Jacob
2007-09-02 18:21                               ` Al Viro
2007-09-02 12:36                       ` Alan Cox
2007-09-02  0:36             ` Jason Dixon
2007-09-02  1:34               ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02  1:39                 ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  1:42                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2007-09-02  1:53                     ` Al Viro
2007-09-02  1:43                   ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02  1:58                   ` Casey Dahlin
2007-09-02  2:06                     ` Al Viro
2007-09-02  2:44                     ` Jason Dixon
2007-09-02  1:55               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02  3:47                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-02  5:09                   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  5:46                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-09-02  2:22               ` Jonathan Gray
2007-09-02 10:18                 ` Alan Cox
2007-09-01 22:03         ` Fwd: " Sam Leffler
2007-09-01 22:29           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-01 20:30   ` Alan Cox
2007-09-01 20:57     ` Jacob Meuser
2007-09-03  2:01     ` David Schwartz
2007-09-03  3:11       ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-03  9:48         ` David Schwartz
2007-09-03 18:01           ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-03 18:26             ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-03 19:04               ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-03 19:33                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-04  0:19                   ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-04 13:27                     ` Krzysztof Halasa [this message]
2007-09-04 17:13                       ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-04 19:28                         ` Chris Friesen
2007-09-04 19:44                           ` Michael Poole
2007-09-04 23:08                             ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-04 20:28                           ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-09-05 12:16                         ` Krzysztof Halasa
2007-09-04  8:50                 ` James Bruce
2007-09-04 16:59                   ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-09-03  8:58       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-03  9:03         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-03  9:21         ` David Schwartz
2007-09-03  9:47           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-03  9:54             ` David Schwartz
2007-09-06 19:12         ` Pavel Machek
2007-09-03  2:01   ` David Schwartz
2007-09-02  0:02 Fwd: " Bob Beck
2007-09-02  0:36 ` Theo de Raadt
2007-09-02  1:22   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-09-02  1:52   ` Constantine A. Murenin
2007-09-02  2:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-09-02 11:40   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-09-02  1:32 ` Adrian Bunk
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     [not found]   ` <8YEXm-2hs-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
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     [not found]               ` <8YWKF-4y9-5@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-09-02 14:47                 ` Bodo Eggert

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