From: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
To: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86 bitops.h commentary on instruction reordering
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 23:23:12 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3657st39b.fsf@averell.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2roWw-40d-17@gated-at.bofh.it> (Vladislav Bolkhovitin's message of "Mon, 09 Aug 2004 22:30:12 +0200")
Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net> writes:
> Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>> Vladislav, There is no cache coherency issues on x86, it handles the
>> cache coherency
>> on hardware.
>
> Well, Marcelo, sorry if I'm getting too annoying, but we had a race
> with cache coherency during SCST (SCSI target mid-level)
> development. We discovered that on P4 Xeon after atomic_set() there is
> very small window, when atomic_read() on another CPUs returns the old
> value. We had to rewrite the code without using atomic_set(). Isn't it
> cache coherency issue?
Add an rmb() after the atomic_set. atomic_set doesn't have one by itself
(it is non locked on Linux/x86)
> And, BTW, returning to the original topic, would it be better to make
> set_bit() and friends guarantee not to be reordered on all
> architectures, instead of just add the comment. Otherwise, what is the
That makes them a *lot* slower on some systems. And most of the
set_bits in the kernel don't need strong ordering.
> difference with versions with `__` prefix (__set_bit(), for example)?
> Just adding the comments will lead to creating different functions
> with gurantees by everyone who need it in all over the kernel. Is it
> the right thing? In some places in SCST we heavy rely on non-ordering
> guarantees.
Better add lots of memory barriers then.
-Andi
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2004-08-09 21:23 ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2004-08-10 12:26 ` [PATCH] x86 bitops.h commentary on instruction reordering Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-05 20:06 Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 14:17 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 14:33 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 15:36 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 15:53 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 16:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 17:09 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 22:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-08-07 1:01 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-08-07 22:16 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-09 15:14 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 15:50 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-09 17:35 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
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2004-08-09 20:12 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 21:21 ` Alan Cox
2004-08-10 12:28 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 11:58 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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