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From: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
To: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, marcelo.tosatti@cyclades.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86 bitops.h commentary on instruction reordering
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2004 23:23:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3657st39b.fsf@averell.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2roWw-40d-17@gated-at.bofh.it> (Vladislav Bolkhovitin's message of "Mon, 09 Aug 2004 22:30:12 +0200")

Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net> writes:

> Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>> Vladislav, There is no cache coherency issues on x86, it handles the
>> cache coherency
>> on hardware.
>
> Well, Marcelo, sorry if I'm getting too annoying, but we had a race
> with cache coherency during SCST (SCSI target mid-level)
> development. We discovered that on P4 Xeon after atomic_set() there is
> very small window, when atomic_read() on another CPUs returns the old
> value. We had to rewrite the code without using atomic_set(). Isn't it
> cache coherency issue?

Add an rmb() after the atomic_set. atomic_set doesn't have one by itself
(it is non locked on Linux/x86)

> And, BTW, returning to the original topic, would it be better to make
> set_bit() and friends guarantee not to be reordered on all
> architectures, instead of just add the comment. Otherwise, what is the

That makes them a *lot* slower on some systems. And most of the
set_bits in the kernel don't need strong ordering.

> difference with versions with `__` prefix (__set_bit(), for example)?
> Just adding the comments will lead to creating different functions
> with gurantees by everyone who need it in all over the kernel. Is it
> the right thing? In some places in SCST we heavy rely on non-ordering
> guarantees.

Better add lots of memory barriers then.

-Andi


       reply	other threads:[~2004-08-09 21:24 UTC|newest]

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2004-08-09 21:23                       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2004-08-10 12:26                         ` [PATCH] x86 bitops.h commentary on instruction reordering Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-05 20:06 Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 14:17 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 14:33   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 15:36     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 15:53       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 16:52         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-06 17:09           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-06 22:33             ` H. Peter Anvin
2004-08-07  1:01               ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2004-08-07 22:16               ` Alan Cox
2004-08-09 15:14             ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 15:50               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2004-08-09 17:35                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
     [not found]                   ` <20040809183437.GD6361@logos.cnet>
2004-08-09 20:12                     ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 21:21                       ` Alan Cox
2004-08-10 12:28                         ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2004-08-09 11:58         ` Maciej W. Rozycki

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