From: Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: "Alan Cox" <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"Ryan C. Gordon" <icculus@icculus.org>,
"Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: FatELF patches...
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:33:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3aaz4hdkf.fsf@intrepid.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.0911021205540.12321@asgard.lang.hm> (david@lang.hm's message of "Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:11:39 -0800 (PST)")
david@lang.hm writes:
>> In terms on disk space on distro TFTP servers only. You'll need to
>> transfer more, both from user's and distro's POV (obviously). This one
>> simple fact alone is more than enough to forget the FatELF.
>
> it depends on if there is only one arch being downloaded ot not.
Well, from user's POV it may get close if the user downloads maybe 5
different archs out of all supported by the distro. Not very typical
I guess.
> it could be considerably cheaper for mirroring bandwidth.
Maybe (though it can be solved with the existing techniques).
What does now count - bandwidth consumed by users or by mirrors?
> Even if Alan
> is correct and distros have re-packaged everything so that the arch
> independant stuff is really in seperate packages, most
> mirroring/repository systems keep each distro release/arch in a
> seperate directory tree, so each of these arch-independant things gets
> copied multiple times.
If it was a (serious) problem (I think it's not), it could be easily
solved. Think rsync, sha1|256-based mirroring stuff etc.
> you don't have to compile multiple arches anymore than you have to
> provide any other support for that arch. FatELF is a way to bundle the
> binaries that you were already creating, not something to force you to
> support an arch you otherwise wouldn't (although if it did make it
> easy enough for you to do so that you started to support additional
> arches, that would be a good thing)
Not sure - longer compile times, longer downloads, no testing.
> if you have a 1M binary with 500M data, repeated for 5 arches it is
> not a win vs a single 505M FatELF package in all cases.
A real example of such binary maybe?
--
Krzysztof Halasa
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-02 20:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-30 2:19 FatELF patches Ryan C. Gordon
2009-10-30 5:42 ` Rayson Ho
2009-10-30 14:54 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-01 19:20 ` David Hagood
2009-11-01 20:28 ` Måns Rullgård
2009-11-01 20:59 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-01 21:15 ` Måns Rullgård
2009-11-01 21:35 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 4:58 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-02 15:14 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-03 14:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-03 18:30 ` Matt Thrailkill
2009-11-01 22:08 ` Rayson Ho
2009-11-02 1:17 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 3:27 ` Rayson Ho
2009-11-02 0:01 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 2:21 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 6:17 ` Julien BLACHE
2009-11-02 18:18 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 18:59 ` Julien BLACHE
2009-11-02 19:08 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-11-02 6:27 ` David Miller
2009-11-02 15:32 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 9:16 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 17:39 ` david
2009-11-02 17:44 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 19:56 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2009-11-02 20:11 ` david
2009-11-02 20:33 ` Krzysztof Halasa [this message]
2009-11-03 1:35 ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-11-02 15:40 ` Diego Calleja
2009-11-04 16:40 ` package managers [was: FatELF patches...] Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 16:54 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-04 17:25 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 17:48 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2009-11-04 18:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 19:46 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-04 20:04 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 20:27 ` david
2009-11-04 20:02 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-04 20:08 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 20:41 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-04 21:11 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 21:32 ` kevin granade
2009-11-04 22:05 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-04 22:19 ` Marcin Letyns
2009-11-04 22:28 ` david
2009-11-04 22:43 ` Martin Nybo Andersen
2009-11-04 23:55 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-05 2:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-05 2:52 ` Mikulas Patocka
[not found] ` <f42384a10911050134t37a0a812hd85ff5541423dc9f@mail.gmail.com>
2009-11-05 9:35 ` Fwd: " Marcin Letyns
2009-11-10 11:40 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-04 23:11 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-05 0:05 ` Mikulas Patocka
2009-11-10 11:57 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-04 17:36 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-11-04 20:28 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 17:52 ` FatELF patches Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-02 18:53 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 20:13 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-04 1:09 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-10 11:27 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-10 12:40 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-11-10 13:00 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-10 13:19 ` Alan Cox
2009-11-02 16:11 ` Chris Adams
2009-11-01 20:40 ` Ryan C. Gordon
2009-11-10 10:04 ` Enrico Weigelt
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2009-11-03 6:43 Eric Windisch
2009-11-03 11:21 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-11-10 10:10 ` Enrico Weigelt
2009-11-10 12:15 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-11-10 10:21 ` Enrico Weigelt
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