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From: Matthias Andree <ma@dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de>
To: Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca>
Cc: "Brent D. Norris" <brent@biglinux.tccw.wku.edu>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-net@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-hams@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-ppp@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ECN is on!
Date: 22 May 2001 23:46:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3ititxdj6.fsf@emma1.emma.line.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15114.18990.597124.656559@pizda.ninka.net> <Pine.LNX.4.30.0105220649530.17291-100000@biglinux.tccw.wku.edu> <200105221306.f4MD6Pi00360@mobilix.ras.ucalgary.ca>
In-Reply-To: <200105221306.f4MD6Pi00360@mobilix.ras.ucalgary.ca>

Richard Gooch <rgooch@ras.ucalgary.ca> writes:

> Sure, Dave is being bloody-minded, but that's the only way we'll see
> people get off their fat, lazy asses and fix their broken systems.
> In fact, hopefully he's still in a dark mood, and he may take up the
> suggestion to bounce mails of the following type:
> - MIME encoded
> - HTML encoded
> - quoted printables (those stupid "=20" things are particuarly hard to
>   read).

MIME is no encoding, but a way to declare mail contents and encode
binary data. You need not use it on mail you send.

HTML is no encoding. (No doubt it's usually sent by people without A
Clue[tm] or being ruthless.)

quoted-printable is an encoding, and it's probably around for ten years
now. I can send base64 if you like that better, but then, even more
people will cry, while others don't even notice. 

Gnus 5.8 + Emacs, mutt, Netscape Communicator are three packages which
deal with MIME-"enhanced" mail.

Plus, people which use any characters beyond ASCII have no real choice
but to use MIME; if they have MTAs in between that don't talk
ESMTP/8BITMIME, then quoted-printable is what happens.

Use emil, metamail or such if you want to keep your mailer.

-- 
Matthias Andree

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-05-22 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-05-22 10:10 ECN is on! Matti Aarnio
2001-05-22 11:14 ` David S. Miller
2001-05-22 11:18   ` Alan Cox
2001-05-22 12:51     ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-22 11:51   ` Brent D. Norris
2001-05-22 12:39     ` Erik Mouw
2001-05-22 13:06     ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-22 15:59       ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-22 16:20         ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-22 16:00       ` Tony Hoyle
2001-05-22 16:04         ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-22 16:23         ` Richard Gooch
2001-05-22 17:03           ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-22 16:12       ` Rogier Wolff
2001-05-22 16:27         ` Steve Modica
2001-05-23  9:58           ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-22 21:46       ` Matthias Andree [this message]
2001-05-22 14:18   ` Steve Modica
2001-05-22 14:57   ` Final Warning [ was: ECN is on! ] David Relson
2001-05-22 15:07     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-22 16:55     ` Joe Barr
2001-05-22 17:11       ` Matti Aarnio
2001-05-22 11:36 ` ECN is on! Bohdan Vlasyuk
2001-05-22 12:07 ` Graham Murray
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-05-22 16:39 Christian, Chip

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