From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 22 May 2001 17:47:07 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 22 May 2001 17:46:58 -0400 Received: from pD951FCDB.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.81.252.219]:39173 "HELO emma1.emma.line.org") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Tue, 22 May 2001 17:46:43 -0400 To: Richard Gooch Cc: "Brent D. Norris" , "David S. Miller" , , , , , , Subject: Re: ECN is on! In-Reply-To: <15114.18990.597124.656559@pizda.ninka.net> <200105221306.f4MD6Pi00360@mobilix.ras.ucalgary.ca> In-Reply-To: <200105221306.f4MD6Pi00360@mobilix.ras.ucalgary.ca> From: Matthias Andree Date: 22 May 2001 23:46:37 +0200 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Richard Gooch writes: > Sure, Dave is being bloody-minded, but that's the only way we'll see > people get off their fat, lazy asses and fix their broken systems. > In fact, hopefully he's still in a dark mood, and he may take up the > suggestion to bounce mails of the following type: > - MIME encoded > - HTML encoded > - quoted printables (those stupid "=20" things are particuarly hard to > read). MIME is no encoding, but a way to declare mail contents and encode binary data. You need not use it on mail you send. HTML is no encoding. (No doubt it's usually sent by people without A Clue[tm] or being ruthless.) quoted-printable is an encoding, and it's probably around for ten years now. I can send base64 if you like that better, but then, even more people will cry, while others don't even notice. Gnus 5.8 + Emacs, mutt, Netscape Communicator are three packages which deal with MIME-"enhanced" mail. Plus, people which use any characters beyond ASCII have no real choice but to use MIME; if they have MTAs in between that don't talk ESMTP/8BITMIME, then quoted-printable is what happens. Use emil, metamail or such if you want to keep your mailer. -- Matthias Andree