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From: Mark Atwood <mra@pobox.com>
To: Riley Williams <rhw@MemAlpha.CX>
To: Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: How does "alias ethX drivername" in modules.conf work?
Date: 07 Aug 2001 17:08:21 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3k80fv2fe.fsf@flash.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0108072359440.30936-100000@infradead.org>
In-Reply-To: Riley Williams's message of "Wed, 8 Aug 2001 00:35:54 +0100 (BST)"

Riley Williams <rhw@MemAlpha.CX> writes:
> 
> I've certainly never stood in the position you call "Kernel" in that
> description. Here's the situation as I see it, put in those sort of
> terms, characters being InitScripts and Kernel respectively:
> 
>  1. InitScripts points at Kernel saying "there is no good and no
>     well documented mapping method".
> 
>  2. Kernel replies "There is a good mapping method, which is to
>     always map the ports starting with the lowest numbered one."

Well, there is that present mapping method, but I hesitate to call it
"good".


Plus, we are unable to satisfactorily define "lowest numbered one".


If I build a system with several identical (other than MAC) FooCorp
PCI ethernics, they will number up in order of ascending MAC address.

I take the same system, replace the FooCorp cards with BarInc NICs, they
will number up in reverse MAC address.

Replace them instead with Baz Systems NICs, and I get them in bus scan
order (at which point I'm dependent on the firmware version of my PCI
bridge too!).

And if I elect to use Frob Networking NICs, I instead get them in the
*random* order that their oncard processors won the race to power up.


Gods and demons help me if I try putting several of all four brands in
one box, or the firmware on my NICs or in my PCI bridges changes!

> 
>  3. InitScripts then tells Kernel "But I don't want to map the ports
>     in ascending numerical order!"

The phrase "ascending numerical order" becomes, depending on if you
have a complex (lots of different kinds of interfaces) or dynamic
(ferex, with PCMCIA, CompactPCI, USB, and Firewire ethernet
interfaces), either useless or undefined.


-- 
Mark Atwood   | I'm wearing black only until I find something darker.
mra@pobox.com | http://www.pobox.com/~mra

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-08-08  0:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-08-03 21:29 How does "alias ethX drivername" in modules.conf work? Mark Atwood
2001-08-04  1:21 ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-04  1:32   ` Thomas Duffy
2001-08-04  2:31     ` Chris Wedgwood
2001-08-04  4:39     ` Jim Roland
2001-08-04 19:35     ` Riley Williams
2001-08-06 19:59       ` Thomas Duffy
2001-08-06 22:56         ` Riley Williams
2001-08-06 23:46           ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-08-07  7:04             ` Riley Williams
2001-08-07 10:49               ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-08-07 19:04                 ` Riley Williams
2001-08-07 21:46                   ` Mark Atwood
2001-08-07 22:33                     ` Tim Jansen
2001-08-07 23:06                       ` Josh Wyatt
2001-08-07 23:35                     ` Riley Williams
2001-08-08  0:04                       ` Josh Wyatt
2001-08-08  6:28                         ` Riley Williams
2001-08-08 10:59                           ` Alan Cox
2001-08-08  0:08                       ` Mark Atwood [this message]
2001-08-08  6:40                         ` Riley Williams
2001-08-08  8:41                           ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-08-08 10:52                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-08-08 11:40                               ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-08-08 22:04                               ` Riley Williams
2001-08-08 21:09                             ` Riley Williams
2001-08-08  0:11                       ` Mark Atwood
2001-08-08  6:47                         ` Riley Williams
2001-08-08  0:16                       ` Mark Atwood
2001-08-08 20:26                         ` Riley Williams
2001-08-08  9:30                       ` Andrzej Krzysztofowicz
2001-08-08 21:31                         ` Riley Williams
2001-08-08 21:42                           ` Alan Cox
2001-08-08 22:24                           ` Horst von Brand
     [not found]                     ` <9kpub6$8fu$1@ns1.clouddancer.com>
2001-08-09 20:05                       ` Colonel
2001-08-10  6:32       ` Paul Gortmaker
2001-08-10 21:25         ` Riley Williams
2001-08-15  4:32           ` Paul Gortmaker
2002-03-28  2:52   ` How to tell how much to expect from a fd Mark Atwood
2002-03-28 13:27     ` Eric Lammerts
2002-03-31  3:03     ` David Schwartz
2001-08-04  4:33 ` How does "alias ethX drivername" in modules.conf work? Jim Roland
2001-08-04  4:48 ` Jim Roland
     [not found] ` <15SnZL-05h4nQC@fmrl06.sul.t-online.com>
2001-08-06 19:46   ` How to hack a network driver to use a specific ethX (was Re: How does "alias ethX drivername" in modules.conf work?) Mark Atwood
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-08-07 20:51 How does "alias ethX drivername" in modules.conf work? Stuart Lynne
2001-08-08  2:36 ` Bill Nottingham
2001-08-08  5:45   ` Greg KH
2001-08-08 13:59 Matt_Domsch

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