From: ebiederman@lnxi.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Jörn Engel" <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de>
Cc: linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, dwmw2@infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/25] mtd: move ioctl32 code to mtdchar.c
Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:37:16 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3slu5al3n.fsf@maxwell.lnxi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20051108183339.GB31446@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> ( Jörn Engel's message of "Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:33:39 +0100")
Jörn Engel <joern@wohnheim.fh-wedel.de> writes:
> mtdchar.c is one of the worst drivers inside the kernel. The concept
> of having a simple char device driver for flash may have its charm,
> but the actual implementation is horrible. And things like the
> read-only devices are even unfixable.
This is a confusing statement, you complain that the implementation is horrible
and then go on to complain about the interface to the character device.
The implementation appears small and concise. There are a couple of
FIXMEs but they are all about wishing the interface to the flash chips
mapped better to a user space interface. I routinely fix things in
the kernel whose implementations are much worse than mtdchar.
> Can you name a few examples, where mtdchar.c makes sense? I've found
> it to be quite useless.
I have found just the opposite. It happens to be the only interface
to mtd devices I use. In general when you have flash devices small
enough that you can't use a filesystem without waisting a lot of space
(keeping 1 free erase block out of 4 or 8 is a problem). Or when you are
doing low-level mucking mtdchar is invaluable.
As for the interface to mtdchar. I agree that the readonly character
device is silly, and does weird things to the mtd device minor numbers.
I agree that ioctls are not the prettiest interface around, however
the raw functionality the ioctls export is needed, and interesting. Some
of the functionality would be hard to export even in sysfs the cool ascii
replacement for ioctl.
Long term it does look like a sysfs interface to the mtd functionality
could suffice.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-09 15:37 UTC|newest]
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2005-11-05 16:26 ` [PATCH 01/25] compat: Remove leftovers from register_ioctl32_conversion Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:44 ` Al Viro
2005-11-05 17:04 ` Andi Kleen
2005-11-05 16:26 ` [PATCH 02/25] net: move socket ioctl32 to net/compat.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:26 ` [PATCH 03/25] net: improve ioctl32 dev_ioctl handling Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:26 ` [PATCH 04/25] net: move atm ioctl32 to net/atm/ioctl.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:26 ` [PATCH 05/25] net: move ppp specific ioctl32 handlers Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:26 ` [PATCH 06/25] mtd: move ioctl32 code to mtdchar.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-08 10:59 ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-08 18:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-11-08 18:33 ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-08 18:45 ` Josh Boyer
2005-11-08 18:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-11-08 22:21 ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-09 0:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2005-11-08 19:03 ` David Woodhouse
2005-11-09 15:37 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2005-11-09 15:48 ` Jörn Engel
2005-11-05 16:26 ` [PATCH 07/25] block: move ioctl32 code to drivers/block/ioctl.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:26 ` [PATCH 08/25] tty: move ioctl32 code over to vt_ioctl.c and tty_io.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:26 ` [PATCH 09/25] v4l: move ioctl32 handlers to drivers/media/ Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-06 4:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-11-07 10:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-12 14:35 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 10/25] fs: move ext2 ioctl32 handlers into file systems Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-06 4:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-11-07 10:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 11/25] framebuffer: move ioctl32 code to fbmem.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-06 0:16 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 12/25] scsi: move SG_IO ioctl32 code to sg.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:44 ` James Bottomley
2005-11-05 19:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 13/25] loop: move ioctl32 code to loop.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-07 3:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 14/25] smbfs: simplify compat_ioctl handling Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 15/25] autofs: move ioctl32 to autofs{,4}/root.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-06 6:22 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-07 10:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-07 16:02 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-08 16:23 ` Ian Kent
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 16/25] ncpfs: move ioctl32 code to fs/ncpfs/ioctl.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 17/25] vfat: move ioctl32 code to fs/fat/dir.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-06 12:05 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2005-11-07 10:41 ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-07 3:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-11-07 10:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 18/25] raw: move ioctl32 code to raw.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-06 13:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-11-07 10:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 19/25] usbdevfs: move ioctl32 into devio.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 20/25] i2c: move ioctl32 code to i2c-dev.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 21/25] reiserfs: remove ioctl conversion code Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 22/25] serial: move ioctl32 code to tty_io.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 23/25] cdrom: move ioctl32 code to drivers/cdrom/compat.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 24/25] tape: move mtio ioctl32 code to driver/char/compat_mtio.c Arnd Bergmann
2005-11-05 16:27 ` [PATCH 25/25] bluetooth: integrate ioctl32 handling Arnd Bergmann
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