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From: Andi Kleen <ak@muc.de>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Richard Zidlicky <rz@linux-m68k.org>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@karaya.com>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: context switch vs. signal delivery [was: Re: Accelerating user mode linux]
Date: 04 Aug 2002 08:46:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3u1mb5df3.fsf@averell.firstfloor.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Ingo Molnar's message of "Sat, 03 Aug 2002 14:20:04 +0200"

Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> writes:


> actually the opposite is true, on a 2.2 GHz P4:
> 
>   $ ./lat_sig catch
>   Signal handler overhead: 3.091 microseconds
> 
>   $ ./lat_ctx -s 0 2
>   2 0.90
> 
> ie. *process to process* context switches are 3.4 times faster than signal
> delivery. Ie. we can switch to a helper thread and back, and still be
> faster than a *single* signal.

This is because the signal save/restore does a lot of unnecessary stuff.
One optimization I implemented at one time was adding a SA_NOFP signal
bit that told the kernel that the signal handler did not intend 
to modify floating point state (few signal handlers need FP) It would 
not save the FPU state then and reached quite some speedup in signal
latency. 

Linux got a lot slower in signal delivery when the SSE2 support was
added. That got this speed back.

The target were certain applications that use signal handlers for async
IO. 

If there is interest I can dig up the old patches. They were really simple.

x86-64 does it also faster by FXSAVE'ing directly to the user space
frame with exception handling instead of copying manually. But that's
not possible in i386 because it still has to use the baroque iBCS 
FP context format on the stack.

-Andi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-08-04 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-01 20:16 Accelerating user mode linux Alan Cox
2002-08-02  4:40 ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-02  9:50   ` Alan Cox
2002-08-02 18:28     ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-02 17:48       ` Alan Cox
2002-08-02 22:33         ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-02 21:57           ` Alan Cox
2002-08-03  0:54             ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-02 11:34   ` Richard Zidlicky
2002-08-02 13:28     ` Alan Cox
2002-08-03 11:38       ` context switch vs. signal delivery [was: Re: Accelerating user mode linux] Ingo Molnar
2002-08-03 12:33         ` context switch vs. signal delivery [was: Re: Accelerating user mode Alan Cox
2002-08-03 15:29           ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-05 13:46             ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-08-05 20:44               ` Richard Zidlicky
2002-08-05 22:34                 ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-08-06  0:42                   ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-06  0:16                     ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-08-06  2:55                       ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-06  8:10                         ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-08-06 11:20                           ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-06 11:13                             ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-08-06 12:53                               ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-06 13:04                                 ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-08-06 14:12                                   ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-06 16:02                                     ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-08-06 17:42                                       ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-06 18:01                                         ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-08-08  1:27                                         ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-08-08  3:14                                           ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-08  2:21                                             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-08-08  9:03                                             ` Udo A. Steinberg
2002-08-08 17:19                                               ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-05 22:06             ` Martin Waitz
2002-08-06  0:49               ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-04  6:46         ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2002-08-05  5:35           ` context switch vs. signal delivery [was: Re: Accelerating user mode linux] Linus Torvalds
2002-08-05  5:42             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2002-08-05  6:37             ` Lincoln Dale
2002-08-05 15:39             ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-05 16:38               ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-05 20:01                 ` context switch vs. signal delivery [was: Re: Accelerating usermode linux] Oliver Neukum
2002-08-05 20:23                   ` Linus Torvalds
2002-08-06  5:31             ` context switch vs. signal delivery [was: Re: Accelerating user mode linux] Mark Mielke
2002-08-05 10:40           ` Ingo Molnar
2002-08-05 14:59             ` Larry McVoy
2002-08-05 15:41             ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-05 15:44               ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found] <1028294887.18635.71.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208031332120.7531-100000@localhost.localdomain.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <m3u1mb5df3.fsf@averell.firstfloor.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <ail2qh$bf0$1@penguin.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-08-05  8:38       ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-05 14:24         ` Jeff Dike
2002-08-05 16:19         ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found] <20020805163910.C7130@kushida.apsleyroad.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44.0208050922570.1753-100000@home.transmeta.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2002-08-05 16:46   ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-05 21:30     ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-05 21:35       ` Andi Kleen
2002-08-05 22:09         ` Jamie Lokier
2002-08-05 22:16           ` Andi Kleen

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