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From: Yoann Vandoorselaere <yoann@mandrakesoft.com>
To: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
Cc: Martin Mares <mj@suse.cz>,
	"Richard B. Johnson" <root@chaos.analogic.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question)
Date: 27 Oct 2000 13:16:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3y9zaa60d.fsf@test1.mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3d7gnd31m.fsf@test1.mandrakesoft.com> <Pine.LNX.3.95.1001026115039.12337A-100000@chaos.analogic.com> <20001026190309.A372@suse.cz> <20001027120220.A5741@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <20001027124947.A476@suse.cz> <m38zrablff.fsf@test1.mandrakesoft.com> <20001027130151.A607@suse.cz>
In-Reply-To: Vojtech Pavlik's message of "Fri, 27 Oct 2000 13:01:51 +0200"

Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz> writes:

> On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 12:58:12PM +0200, Yoann Vandoorselaere wrote:
> 
> > > > > So this is not our problem here. Anyway I guess it's time to hunt for
> > > > > i8259 accesses in the kernel that lack the necessary spinlock, even when
> > > > > they're not probably the cause of the problem we see here.
> > > > 
> > > > BTW what about trying to modify your work-around code to make it
> > > > attempt to read the timer again? This way we could test whether it was
> > > > a race condition during timer read or really timer jumping to a bogus
> > > > value.
> > > 
> > > Actually if I don't reprogram the timer (and just ignore the value for
> > > example), the work-around code keeps being called again and again very
> > > often (between 1x/minute to 100x/second) after the first failure, even
> > > when the system is idle.
> > > 
> > > When reprogramming, next failure happens only after stressing the system
> > > again.
> > > 
> > > So it's not just a race, the impact of the failure on the chip is
> > > permanent and stays till it's reprogrammed.
> > 
> > Are you sure there is not an error in the way the 
> > chipset is programmed ?
> 
> Which part of the chipset you mean? The PIT (programmable interrupt
> timer)? That one is standard since XT times. The rest of the ISA bridge?
> Maybe, but that's mostly BIOS work and shouldn't impact the PIT
> under sane conditions.

What is strange is that a number of persons seem to be hit by this
problem... And if VIA didn't corrected it it's probably because
they are not aware of it...

I think that if such problem occured under windows 
(thinking to the windows user base), VIA would be already in touch.

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  reply	other threads:[~2000-10-27 11:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <m3d7gnd31m.fsf@test1.mandrakesoft.com>
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.3.95.1001026115039.12337A-100000@chaos.analogic.com>
2000-10-26 17:03   ` Possible critical VIA vt82c686a chip bug (private question) Vojtech Pavlik
2000-10-26 17:42     ` Richard B. Johnson
2000-10-26 18:02       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2000-10-26 20:11         ` Yoann Vandoorselaere
2000-10-26 20:16           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2000-10-26 21:05             ` Yoann Vandoorselaere
2000-10-26 21:15               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2000-10-26 21:24                 ` Yoann Vandoorselaere
2000-10-26 21:25                   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2000-10-27 10:02     ` Martin Mares
2000-10-27 10:49       ` Vojtech Pavlik
2000-10-27 10:58         ` Yoann Vandoorselaere
2000-10-27 11:01           ` Vojtech Pavlik
2000-10-27 11:16             ` Yoann Vandoorselaere [this message]
2000-10-27 11:15               ` Vojtech Pavlik
     [not found] <20001026173244.B8290@suse.cz>
2000-10-27 12:04 ` bart
2000-10-27 13:41   ` Vojtech Pavlik
2000-10-28  5:39     ` TimO

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