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From: Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v2 09/16] luo: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 12:43:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mafs0a568vuf5.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CK2bA6zsdARkRMQwadD__qXOzjABcRnwdZjfdnvLf26hsz9w@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 13 2025, Pasha Tatashin wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 13, 2025 at 11:18 AM Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 08 2025, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
>>
>> > On Thu, Jun 5, 2025 at 12:04 PM Pratyush Yadav <pratyush@kernel.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, May 15 2025, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Implements the core logic within luo_files.c to invoke the prepare,
>> >> > reboot, finish, and cancel callbacks for preserved file instances,
>> >> > replacing the previous stub implementations. It also handles
>> >> > the persistence and retrieval of the u64 data payload associated with
>> >> > each file via the LUO FDT.
>> >> >
>> >> > This completes the core mechanism enabling registered filesystem
>> >> > handlers to actively manage file state across the live update
>> >> > transition using the LUO framework.
>> >> >
>> >> > Signed-off-by: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
>> >> > ---
>> >> >  drivers/misc/liveupdate/luo_files.c | 105 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>> >> >  1 file changed, 103 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>> >> >
>> >> [...]
>> >> > @@ -305,7 +369,29 @@ int luo_do_files_prepare_calls(void)
>> >> >   */
>> >> >  int luo_do_files_freeze_calls(void)
>> >> >  {
>> >> > -     return 0;
>> >> > +     unsigned long token;
>> >> > +     struct luo_file *h;
>> >> > +     int ret;
>> >> > +
>> >> > +     xa_for_each(&luo_files_xa_out, token, h) {
>> >>
>> >> Should we also ensure at this point that there are no open handles to
>> >> this file? How else would a file system ensure the file is in quiescent
>> >> state to do its final serialization?
>> >
>> > Do you mean check refcnt here? If so, this is a good idea, but first
>> > we need to implement the lifecycle of liveupdate agent correctectly,
>> > where owner of FD must survive through entering into reboot() with
>> > /dev/liveupdate still open.
>>
>> Yes, by this point we should ensure refcnt == 1. IIUC you plan to
>> implement the lifecycle change in the next revision, so this can be
>> added there as well I suppose.
>
> Yes, I am working on that. Current, WIP patch looks like this:
> https://github.com/soleen/linux/commit/fecf912d8b70acd23d24185a8c0504764e43a279
>
> However, I am not sure about refcnt == 1 at freeze() time. We can have
> programs, that never terminated while we were still in userspace (i.e.
> kexec -e -> reboot() -> freeze()), in that case refcnt can be anything
> at the time of freeze, no?

Do you mean the agent that controls the liveupdate session? Then in that
case the agent can keep running with the /dev/liveupdate FD open, but it
must close all of the FDs preserved via LUO before doing kexec -e.

-- 
Regards,
Pratyush Yadav

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-16 10:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-15 18:23 [RFC v2 00/16] Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 01/16] kho: make debugfs interface optional Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:03   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-06 16:12     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 02/16] kho: allow to drive kho from within kernel Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 03/16] kho: add kho_unpreserve_folio/phys Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 15:00   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-06 16:22     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 04/16] luo: luo_core: Live Update Orchestrator Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  6:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-30  5:00     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 15:17   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-07 17:11     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 05/16] luo: luo_core: integrate with KHO Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  7:18   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-07 17:50     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-09  2:14       ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:00   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-07 23:30     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 14:58       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-17 15:23         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-17 19:32           ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 13:11             ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-18 14:48               ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 16:40                 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-18 17:00                   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 17:43                     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-19 12:00                       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-19 14:22                         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-20 15:28                           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-20 16:03                             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24 16:12                               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-24 16:55                                 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24 18:31                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-23  7:32                       ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-23 11:29                         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25 13:46                           ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 06/16] luo: luo_subsystems: add subsystem registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  7:31   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-07 23:42     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-28 19:12   ` David Matlack
2025-06-07 23:58     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-04 16:30   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08  0:04     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 07/16] luo: luo_subsystems: implement subsystem callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 08/16] luo: luo_files: add infrastructure for FDs Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 23:15   ` James Houghton
2025-05-23 18:09     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  7:55   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-05 11:56     ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:13     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 15:56   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:37     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:27       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-15 18:02         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 09/16] luo: luo_files: implement file systems callbacks Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:03   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 13:49     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:18       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-13 20:26         ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-16 10:43           ` Pratyush Yadav [this message]
2025-06-16 14:57             ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-18 13:16               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 10/16] luo: luo_ioctl: add ioctl interface Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  8:42   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-08 15:08     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-28 20:29   ` David Matlack
2025-06-08 16:32     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:15   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 16:35     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-24  9:50   ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-24 14:27     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-25  9:36       ` Christian Brauner
2025-06-25 16:12         ` David Matlack
2025-06-26 15:42           ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-26 16:24             ` David Matlack
2025-07-14 14:56               ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-17 16:17                 ` David Matlack
2025-07-23 14:51                   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-06 14:33             ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-07 12:56               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-06-25 16:58         ` pasha.tatashin
2025-07-06 14:24     ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-09 21:27       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-07-10  7:26         ` Mike Rapoport
2025-07-14 14:34           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-07-16  9:43             ` Greg KH
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 11/16] luo: luo_sysfs: add sysfs state monitoring Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-05 16:20   ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-06-08 16:36     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-06-13 15:13       ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 12/16] reboot: call liveupdate_reboot() before kexec Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 13/16] luo: add selftests for subsystems un/registration Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  8:52   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-06-08 16:47     ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 14/16] selftests/liveupdate: add subsystem/state tests Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 15/16] docs: add luo documentation Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  9:00   ` Mike Rapoport
2025-05-15 18:23 ` [RFC v2 16/16] MAINTAINERS: add liveupdate entry Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-20  7:25 ` [RFC v2 00/16] Live Update Orchestrator Mike Rapoport
2025-05-23 18:07   ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-05-26  6:32 ` Mike Rapoport

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