From: Pratyush Yadav <ptyadav@amazon.de>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nvme-pci: do not set the NUMA node of device if it has none
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2023 17:30:33 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <mafs0cz0e8zc6.fsf_-_@amazon.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230726131408.GA15909@lst.de> (Christoph Hellwig's message of "Wed, 26 Jul 2023 15:14:08 +0200")
On Wed, Jul 26 2023, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
Hi all,
> On Wed, Jul 26, 2023 at 10:58:36AM +0300, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
>>>> For example, AWS EC2's i3.16xlarge instance does not expose NUMA
>>>> information for the NVMe devices. This means all NVMe devices have
>>>> NUMA_NO_NODE by default. Without this patch, random 4k read performance
>>>> measured via fio on CPUs from node 1 (around 165k IOPS) is almost 50%
>>>> less than CPUs from node 0 (around 315k IOPS). With this patch, CPUs on
>>>> both nodes get similar performance (around 315k IOPS).
>>>
>>> irqbalance doesn't work with this driver though: the interrupts are
>>> managed by the kernel. Is there some other reason to explain the perf
>>> difference?
Hmm, I did not know that. I have not gone and looked at the code but I
think the same reasoning should hold, just with s/irqbalance/kernel. If
the kernel IRQ balancer sees the device is on node 0, it would deliver
its interrupts to CPUs on node 0.
In my tests I can see that the interrupts for NVME queues are sent only
to CPUs from node 0 without this patch. With this patch CPUs from both
nodes get the interrupts.
>>
>> Maybe its because the numa_node goes to the tagset which allocates
>> stuff based on that numa-node ?
>
> Yeah, the only explanation I could come up with is that without this
> the allocations gets spread, and that somehow helps. All of this
> is a little obscure, but so is the NVMe practice of setting the node id
> to first_memory_node, which no other driver does. I'd really like to
> understand what's going on here first. After that this patch probably
> is the right thing, I'd just like to understand why.
See above for my conjecture on why this happens.
More specifically, I discovered this when running an application pinned
to a node 1 CPU reading from an NVME device. I noticed it was performing
worse than when it was pinned to node 0.
If the process is free to move around it might not see such a large
performance difference since it could move to a node 0 CPU. But if it is
pinned to a CPU in node 1 then the interrupt will always hit a node 0
CPU and create higher latency for the reads.
I have a simple fio test that can reproduce this. Save this [1] as
fio.txt and then run numactl --cpunodebind 1 fio ./fio.txt. You can run
it on any host with an NVME device that has no NUMA node. I have tested
this on AWS EC2's i3.16xlarge instance type.
[1]
[global]
ioengine=libaio
filename=/dev/nvme0n1
group_reporting=1
direct=1
verify=0
norandommap=0
size=10%
time_based=1
runtime=30
ramp_time=0
randrepeat=0
log_max_value=1
unified_rw_reporting=1
percentile_list=50:99:99.9:99.99:99.999
bwavgtime=10000
[4k_randread_qd16_4w]
stonewall
bs=4k
rw=randread
iodepth=32
numjobs=1
--
Regards,
Pratyush Yadav
Amazon Development Center Germany GmbH
Krausenstr. 38
10117 Berlin
Geschaeftsfuehrung: Christian Schlaeger, Jonathan Weiss
Eingetragen am Amtsgericht Charlottenburg unter HRB 149173 B
Sitz: Berlin
Ust-ID: DE 289 237 879
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-26 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-25 11:06 [PATCH] nvme-pci: do not set the NUMA node of device if it has none Pratyush Yadav
2023-07-25 14:35 ` Keith Busch
2023-07-26 7:58 ` Sagi Grimberg
2023-07-26 13:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-26 15:30 ` Pratyush Yadav [this message]
2023-07-26 16:17 ` Keith Busch
2023-07-26 19:32 ` Pratyush Yadav
2023-07-26 22:25 ` Keith Busch
2023-07-28 18:09 ` Pratyush Yadav
2023-07-28 19:34 ` Keith Busch
2023-08-04 14:50 ` Pratyush Yadav
2023-08-04 15:19 ` Keith Busch
2023-08-08 15:51 ` Pratyush Yadav
2023-08-08 16:35 ` Keith Busch
2024-07-23 9:49 ` Maurizio Lombardi
2024-07-23 14:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
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