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From: Uwaysi Bin Kareem <uwaysi.bin.kareem@paradoxuncreated.com>
To: david@lang.hm
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Minimal jitter = good desktop.
Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2012 15:19:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <op.wlrdzkqh6426ze@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1210051803180.13407@asgard.lang.hm>

In the context of os-jitter, delay/latency is measured as jitter.

Peace Be With You.

On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 03:06:57 +0200, <david@lang.hm> wrote:

> less jitter != less latency
>
> you could (in theory) eliminate jitter by delaying every keypress  
> processed for exactly 1 second by having the code paths that process  
> keypresses faster insert delays before implementing the results.
>
> that would result in zero jitter, but horrific latency.
>
> latency is how long it takes to do something, jitter is how much the  
> latency varies.
>
> normally, if you optimize for one you make the other worse.
>
> If you optimize for latency, you try to finish everything as soon as you  
> can. Since some things take longer than others, jitter increases.
>
> David Lang
>
> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012, Uwaysi Bin Kareem wrote:
>
>> Reducing jitter seems central for many things.
>> First of all keypresses seem faster. (less jitter = less latency).
>> Doom 3 and similar jittersensitive OpenGL applications run smoothly,  
>> and better than windows. Doom 3 was also my main app to get running  
>> well, and measuring jitter in the signalpath of OpenGL improved the  
>> overall computing experience.
>>
>> Even youtube videos who are not synced to refresh, with a refresh of  
>> 60, and a videofps of 30, runs quite well.  
>> http://paradoxuncreated.com/Blog/wordpress/?p=3221
>>
>> System is responsive, and I have only had one problem, and that is  
>> packing seems not to work at the moment.
>>
>> For a fast test in Ubuntu, try  
>> http://paradoxuncreated.com/Blog/wordpress/?p=2268
>>
>> Definately a recommended config on the desktop.
>>
>> Peace Be With You.
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-10-06 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-06  0:49 Minimal jitter = good desktop Uwaysi Bin Kareem
2012-10-06  1:06 ` david
2012-10-06 13:19   ` Uwaysi Bin Kareem [this message]
2012-10-06 14:53     ` el_es
2012-10-06 18:02       ` Uwaysi Bin Kareem
2012-10-07  1:15         ` el_es
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     [not found]             ` <CAEwFKRBk0X7vAh=Sw-imXeSLN8kBjdfWFXw0Vq2GGygS=0yPrA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` <op.wltgb7mg6426ze@localhost.localdomain>
2012-10-07 20:28                 ` Uwaysi Bin Kareem

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