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From: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>
To: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, openib-general@openib.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/13]  [RFC] ipath basic headers
Date: 18 Dec 2005 04:25:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p73oe3fdr2w.fsf@verdi.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1irtn75pk.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>

ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) writes:

> Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> writes:
> 
> > please always used fixes-size types for user communication.  also please
> > avoid ioctls like the rest of the IB codebase.
> 
> Could someone please explain to me how the uverbs abuse of write
> is better that ioctl?  

It's actually worse because if they have a 32bit compat issue
then ioctl can be fixed up, but read/write can't. 

I wish the people arguing against ioctl all the time would
just stop that because the alternatives are usually worse.
 
> - 64bit compilers will not pad every structure to 8 bytes.  This
>   only will happen if you happen to have an 8 byte element in your
>   structure that is only aligned to 32bits by a 32bit structure.
>   Unfortunately the 32bit gcc only aligns long long to 32bits on
>   x86, which triggers the described behavior.

Exactly - and driver writers usually don't get that right so we
need to have a tool to fix it up in the end. And with ioctl
that's easiest.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2005-12-18  3:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20051031150618.627779f1.akpm@osdl.org>
2005-12-16 23:48 ` [PATCH 00/13] [RFC] IB: PathScale InfiniPath driver Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48   ` [PATCH 01/13] [RFC] ipath basic headers Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48     ` [PATCH 02/13] [RFC] ipath debug header Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48       ` [PATCH 03/13] [RFC] ipath copy routines Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48         ` [PATCH 04/13] [RFC] ipath LLD core, part 1 Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48           ` [PATCH 05/13] [RFC] ipath LLD core, part 2 Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48             ` [PATCH 06/13] [RFC] ipath LLD core, part 3 Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48               ` [PATCH 07/13] [RFC] ipath core misc files Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48                 ` [PATCH 08/13] [RFC] ipath core last bit Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48                   ` [PATCH 09/13] [RFC] ipath IB driver headers Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48                     ` [PATCH 10/13] [RFC] ipath verbs, part 1 Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48                       ` [PATCH 11/13] [RFC] ipath verbs, part 2 Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48                         ` [PATCH 12/13] [RFC] ipath verbs MAD handling Roland Dreier
2005-12-16 23:48                           ` [PATCH 13/13] [RFC] ipath Kconfig and Makefile Roland Dreier
2005-12-17 21:52                             ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-17 22:54                               ` [openib-general] " Robert Walsh
2005-12-17 23:55                                 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18  1:17                                   ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-18  0:27                                 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-18 19:23                             ` Sam Ravnborg
2005-12-20  0:32                               ` [openib-general] " Robert Walsh
2005-12-26  2:49                               ` Roland Dreier
2005-12-18 19:59                       ` [PATCH 10/13] [RFC] ipath verbs, part 1 Paul E. McKenney
2005-12-18 20:05                         ` [openib-general] " Robert Walsh
2005-12-19 20:50                         ` Ralph Campbell
2005-12-17 20:38                   ` [PATCH 08/13] [RFC] ipath core last bit Andrew Morton
2005-12-21  0:00                     ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-17 20:38                 ` [PATCH 07/13] [RFC] ipath core misc files Andrew Morton
2005-12-17 21:29                   ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-17 21:33                   ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-18  3:10                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-18  3:13                       ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-17 20:38           ` [PATCH 04/13] [RFC] ipath LLD core, part 1 Andrew Morton
2005-12-17 21:34             ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-17 12:38         ` [PATCH 03/13] [RFC] ipath copy routines Pekka Enberg
2005-12-17 21:38           ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-17 13:16         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-17 20:38         ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-17 22:40           ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-18  3:19             ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-18  3:35               ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18  5:33               ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-18  9:33               ` David S. Miller
2005-12-18 19:52                 ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-18  3:27             ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-18  5:36               ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-18  5:41                 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-18 13:25               ` Alan Cox
2005-12-17 12:33     ` [PATCH 01/13] [RFC] ipath basic headers Pekka Enberg
2005-12-17 21:55       ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-17 13:14     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-17 21:51       ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-18  3:25         ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2005-12-18 15:02           ` Eric W. Biederman
2005-12-17 22:19       ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-17 22:25         ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-17 22:47           ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-17 20:38     ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-17 22:39       ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-18  3:14         ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-20  1:43       ` Robert Walsh
2005-12-17 13:16   ` [PATCH 00/13] [RFC] IB: PathScale InfiniPath driver Christoph Hellwig
2005-12-17 15:51     ` Roland Dreier

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