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From: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
To: Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC: remove __read_mostly
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 01:33:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <p73tzmmf72u.fsf@bingen.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20071213235432.GA26669@fattire.cabal.ca> (Kyle McMartin's message of "Thu\, 13 Dec 2007 18\:54\:32 -0500")

Kyle McMartin <kyle@mcmartin.ca> writes:

> I'd bet, in the __read_mostly case at least, that there's no
> improvement in almost all cases.

I bet you're wrong. Cache line behaviour is critical, much more
than pipeline behaviour (which unlikely affects). That is because
if you eat a cache miss it gets really expensive, which e.g.
a mispredicted jump is relatively cheap in comparison. We're talking
one or more orders of magnitude.

I admit I'm to blame for both (submitted unlikely and asked for
__read_mostly) and I now consider unlikely a mistake now by hindsight,
but still think __read_mostly was a good idea.

There is one potential problem in that if __read_mostly is used too
aggressively then the non __read_mostly variables will be all "write
mostly" with nothing inbetween and that could lead to more false
sharing, but so far this doesn't seem to be a big problem (and that
one could be solved too)

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-14  0:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-13 22:20 RFC: remove __read_mostly Adrian Bunk
2007-12-13 22:29 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-13 22:41   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-12-14 16:16     ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-12-14 16:31       ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-13 22:32 ` David Miller
2007-12-13 22:44   ` Harvey Harrison
2007-12-13 23:06     ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-13 22:48 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-13 23:00   ` Adrian Bunk
2007-12-13 23:54 ` Kyle McMartin
2007-12-14  0:33   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2007-12-17 10:33     ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-17 10:53       ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-17 11:07         ` Andrew Morton
2007-12-17 12:19           ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-17 12:15       ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-17 12:40         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-12-14 15:24 ` Matt Mackall
2007-12-14 15:38   ` Eric Dumazet
2007-12-14 15:42     ` Matt Mackall

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