Re: ECS k7s5a audio sound SiS 735 - 7012

Re: ECS k7s5a audio sound SiS 735 - 7012

[Andi Kleen]

Dan Hollis <goemon@anime.net> writes:

> On 2 Nov 2001, John Fremlin wrote:
> > Who to talk to at SiS? They have a dubious web interface for sales and
> > marketing requests that I used, but I'd prefer to email someone who
> > knows what a datasheet actually is ;-)
> > Alsa doesn't advertise any contact with SiS at all :-(
> 
> I've already talked with SiS. They are insisting that they will write the
> drivers themselves, they dont want to release datasheets to anyone. The
> reply I got (Thu, 25 Oct 2001) they said they are working on OSS drivers
> in-house, and ALSA drivers are next.

ALSA drivers seem to work. A standard SuSE 7.2 install with yast2 alsa installer
had no problems with producing sound on a k7s5a.

The sound quality is somewhat poor however; but even with another sound card
this board is cheaper than the alternativesa and works very fast. 

-Andi (happy user of a k7s5a with a sblive) 

Re: ECS k7s5a audio sound SiS 735 - 7012

[Alan Cox]

> ALSA drivers seem to work. A standard SuSE 7.2 install with yast2 alsa installer
> had no problems with producing sound on a k7s5a.
> 
> The sound quality is somewhat poor however; but even with another sound card
> this board is cheaper than the alternativesa and works very fast. 

What driver does it install ? - Soundblaster 8bit ?

Re: ECS k7s5a audio sound SiS 735 - 7012

[Alan Cox]

> > I guess in the mean time SIS board are best avoided. Who knows if they'll
> > ever actually deliver
> 
> Why suggesting to avoid this board that looks pretty fast, stable and is
> very cheap? A reasonable and low cost Sound board will fit and will give
> far better sound quality for less CPU load.

because so many people have bought things on the promise of vendor support
that never appeared or was at best minimal

> Btw, I just purchased a CMEDIA 8738 based sound board for less than 20
> euros (119 FF to be precise).

Nice cards

Re: ECS k7s5a motherboard doesnt work

[Zephaniah E. Hull]

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On Mon, Oct 29, 2001 at 10:10:28AM -0500, Justin Mierta wrote:
> well, i dont have a floppy drive, so that test is a little difficult to 
> do, but i threw some ram in there that i have used in linux before, and 
> i still had the slew of ide error messages.  and this harddrive has 
> worked in linux before.  i'm getting more and more convinced its an ide 
> controller +linux issue.
> 
> plus, i just discovered this:
> http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0109.1/0198.html
> 
> which really points to ide controller and linux not fighting nicely 
> together, altho the thread doesnt really point towards a solution.

I'm using a K7S5A with recent 2.4.x kernels, and have no major
problems[0].

I don't remember why I have CONFIG_IDEDISK_MULTI_MODE on, but I do.

I also have CONFIG_IDEDMA_NEW_DRIVE_LISTINGS on, and obviously have
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513 on.

Oh, and I have CONFIG_IDEDMA_IVB as well.

The only problems I have seen with this board are that I can't find
drivers for the sound (no big loss), lmsensors does not seem to be able
to properly read the sensors (annoying), repeated 'VFS: Disk change
detected on device ide1(22,0)' messages (my cdrom drive, getting a
little annoying), and, thats about it.

I have not seen any data corruption.

My obvious question is what kernels are you running, and are you
enabling CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SIS5513 or not?

Zephaniah E. Hull.
> 
> justin

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Re: ECS k7s5a motherboard doesnt work

[Alan Cox]

> The only problems I have seen with this board are that I can't find
> drivers for the sound (no big loss), lmsensors does not seem to be able

[ALSA has one I believe]

> to properly read the sensors (annoying), repeated 'VFS: Disk change
> detected on device ide1(22,0)' messages (my cdrom drive, getting a
> little annoying), and, thats about it.

rpm -e magicdev

ECS k7s5a audio sound SiS 735 - 7012

[John Fremlin]

Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:

> > The only problems I have seen with this board are that I can't find
> > drivers for the sound (no big loss), lmsensors does not seem to be able
> 
> [ALSA has one I believe]

I couldn't see one. Do you know what name it would have or where I can
get the datasheet for it?

The ECS K75S5A motherboard is built around a SiS735 chipset with
integrated sound, called a SiS7012 by SiS. According to
http://www.sis.com/support/driver/audio.htm one MS-Windows driver
covers the chipsets SiS635, SiS735, SiS633, and SiS733.

There allegedly exist non-free Linux drivers from OSS called the
SiS7012. 

The PCI dump for the sound part is

/proc/pci:
  Bus  0, device   2, function  7:
    Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 160).
      IRQ 11.
      Master Capable.  Latency=64.  Min Gnt=52.Max Lat=11.
      I/O at 0xdc00 [0xdcff].
      I/O at 0xd800 [0xd83f].


/sbin/lspci  -v:
00:02.7 Class 0401: 1039:7012 (rev a0)
        Subsystem: 1019:0a14
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
        I/O ports at dc00 [size=256]
        I/O ports at d800 [size=64]
        Capabilities: [48] Power Management version 2

[...]

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Re: ECS k7s5a audio sound SiS 735 - 7012

[Alan Cox]

> > [ALSA has one I believe]
> 
> I couldn't see one. Do you know what name it would have or where I can
> get the datasheet for it?

Apparently I was misinformed.

> The ECS K75S5A motherboard is built around a SiS735 chipset with
> integrated sound, called a SiS7012 by SiS. According to
> http://www.sis.com/support/driver/audio.htm one MS-Windows driver
> covers the chipsets SiS635, SiS735, SiS633, and SiS733.
> 
> There allegedly exist non-free Linux drivers from OSS called the
> SiS7012. 

I guess someone who wants the driver needs to talk to SiS about datasheets

Re: ECS k7s5a audio sound SiS 735 - 7012

[John Fremlin]

Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:

[...]

> > The ECS K75S5A motherboard is built around a SiS735 chipset with
> > integrated sound, called a SiS7012 by SiS. According to
> > http://www.sis.com/support/driver/audio.htm one MS-Windows driver
> > covers the chipsets SiS635, SiS735, SiS633, and SiS733.
> > 
> > There allegedly exist non-free Linux drivers from OSS called the
> > SiS7012. 
> 
> I guess someone who wants the driver needs to talk to SiS about
> datasheets

Who to talk to at SiS? They have a dubious web interface for sales and
marketing requests that I used, but I'd prefer to email someone who
knows what a datasheet actually is ;-)

Alsa doesn't advertise any contact with SiS at all :-(
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Re: ECS k7s5a audio sound SiS 735 - 7012

[Dan Hollis]

On 2 Nov 2001, John Fremlin wrote:
> Who to talk to at SiS? They have a dubious web interface for sales and
> marketing requests that I used, but I'd prefer to email someone who
> knows what a datasheet actually is ;-)
> Alsa doesn't advertise any contact with SiS at all :-(

I've already talked with SiS. They are insisting that they will write the
drivers themselves, they dont want to release datasheets to anyone. The
reply I got (Thu, 25 Oct 2001) they said they are working on OSS drivers
in-house, and ALSA drivers are next.

Of course, who knows when they'll be released.

-Dan
-- 
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Re: ECS k7s5a audio sound SiS 735 - 7012

[Alan Cox]

> I've already talked with SiS. They are insisting that they will write the
> drivers themselves, they dont want to release datasheets to anyone. The
> reply I got (Thu, 25 Oct 2001) they said they are working on OSS drivers
> in-house, and ALSA drivers are next.

I guess in the mean time SIS board are best avoided. Who knows if they'll
ever actually deliver