From: Christoph Rohland <cr@sap.com>
To: richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com
Cc: Michael Rothwell <rothwell@holly-springs.nc.us>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI)
Date: 09 Nov 2000 12:24:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <qwwvgtxjslr.fsf@sap.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80256992.002FE358.00@d06mta06.portsmouth.uk.ibm.com>
In-Reply-To: richardj_moore@uk.ibm.com's message of "Thu, 9 Nov 2000 07:43:09 +0000"
Hi Richard,
On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, richardj moore wrote:
> Let be clear about one thing: the GKHI make no statement about
> enabling proprietary extensions and that's a common
> misconception. GKHI is intended to make optional facilities easier
> to co-install and change. We designed it for DProbes, and when
> modularised will remain a GPL opensource offering.
Yes, I understand that.
> The only motivation for providing GKHI is to make the kernel more
> acceptable to the enterprise customer, but allowing, for example,
> RAS capabilities to be brough in easily and dynmaically. This type
> of customer will not readily succome to on-the-fly kernel rebuilds
> to diagnose problems that occur only in complex production
> environments.
I know this problem pretty well.
> If anything opens the door to proprietary extensions it's the
> loadable kernel modules capability or perhaps the loose wording of
> the GPL which doesn't catch loadable kernel modules, or
> whatever... Bottom line GKHI really has no bearing on this.
Yes, and that's why I am opposing here: Technically you are right, but
proposing that enterprise Linux should go this way is inviting binary
only modules due to the lax handling of modules.
Please keep in mind: I did not react to your announcement but to the
proposal that the companies should jump on it to do a special
enterprise Linux. If we really need a special enterprise tree lets do
it without module tricks.
Greetings
Christoph
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Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-11-09 7:43 [ANNOUNCE] Generalised Kernel Hooks Interface (GKHI) richardj_moore
2000-11-09 11:24 ` Christoph Rohland [this message]
2000-11-09 12:25 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 12:30 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2000-11-09 12:46 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 13:35 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-09 13:43 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 14:23 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-09 12:50 ` Paul Jakma
2000-11-09 12:53 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 13:39 ` Paul Jakma
2000-11-09 14:06 ` Marco Colombo
2000-11-09 14:14 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-09 14:26 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-09 14:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-09 20:24 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-09 13:31 ` Alan Cox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2000-11-15 15:24 richardj_moore
2000-11-15 18:20 ` Matt D. Robinson
2000-11-15 15:22 richardj_moore
2000-11-14 1:34 richardj_moore
2000-11-13 5:52 richardj_moore
2000-11-12 23:27 richardj_moore
2000-11-13 10:38 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-14 3:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2000-11-10 19:31 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 18:42 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 16:08 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 11:41 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 16:24 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-10 16:37 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-10 18:36 ` Matt D. Robinson
2000-11-11 0:12 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-11 3:29 ` Matt D. Robinson
2000-11-11 4:57 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-11 17:58 ` tytso
2000-11-13 10:30 ` Daniel Phillips
2000-11-11 21:48 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2000-11-11 22:12 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-10 16:54 ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-10 11:17 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 10:57 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 10:57 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 10:57 richardj_moore
2000-11-10 13:45 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-10 13:51 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-10 14:00 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-10 14:37 ` David Lang
2000-11-09 14:02 Jesse Pollard
2000-11-08 20:31 richardj_moore
2000-11-08 21:35 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 7:44 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 7:53 ` Larry McVoy
2000-11-09 8:08 ` Andre Hedrick
2000-11-09 8:43 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 12:20 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 12:31 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2000-11-09 12:40 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-09 13:02 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 13:30 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-09 13:39 ` Michael Rothwell
2000-11-09 17:19 ` Mike Coleman
2000-11-09 17:27 ` Alexander Viro
2000-11-10 11:42 ` Martin Dalecki
2000-11-09 13:40 ` Marco Colombo
2000-11-10 8:44 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 12:50 ` Tigran Aivazian
2000-11-09 16:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2000-11-10 8:42 ` Christoph Rohland
2000-11-09 14:28 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2000-11-10 15:07 ` Matti Aarnio
2000-11-10 15:24 ` Michael Rothwell
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