From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751129Ab0EGEKR (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 May 2010 00:10:17 -0400 Received: from mail-px0-f174.google.com ([209.85.212.174]:40807 "EHLO mail-px0-f174.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750815Ab0EGEKP convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 May 2010 00:10:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20100507034510.GA20935@thegnar.org> References: <20100505202826.GB7450@linux.intel.com> <20100505234755.GI29604@atomide.com> <20100506134015.GA23426@srcf.ucam.org> <20100506170151.GA30928@atomide.com> <20100506170956.GA28104@srcf.ucam.org> <20100507034510.GA20935@thegnar.org> Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 21:10:14 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [linux-pm] [PATCH 1/8] PM: Add suspend block api. From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arve_Hj=F8nnev=E5g?= To: markgross@thegnar.org Cc: Matthew Garrett , Tony Lindgren , Brian Swetland , Alan Stern , mark gross , Len Brown , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Kernel development list , Jesse Barnes , Oleg Nesterov , Tejun Heo , Linux-pm mailing list , Wu Fengguang , Andrew Morton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:45 PM, mgross wrote: > On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 06:09:56PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:01:51AM -0700, Tony Lindgren wrote: >> >> > Or are you suspending constantly, tens of times per minute even if >> > there's no user activity? >> >> In this case you'd be repeatedly trying to suspend until the modem >> driver stopped blocking it. It's pretty much a waste. > > > lets not go off in the weeds for the wrong things now.  The answer to > the retry is at most one time.  The first time would be blocked, then > the suspend enable would need to re-enabled under user mode control that > would, buy that time, know it has to ack to the modem to stop rejecting > the suspend attempt. > This is incorrect in the general case. User-space has no way of knowing which driver blocked suspend or when it will stop blocking suspend. -- Arve Hjønnevåg