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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] firmware: Avoid superfluous usermodehelper lock
Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 18:37:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5h38txwhqq.wl%tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5hd2t1wih4.wl%tiwai@suse.de>

At Wed, 08 May 2013 18:21:11 +0200,
Takashi Iwai wrote:
> 
> At Wed, 8 May 2013 23:52:02 +0800,
> Ming Lei wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de> wrote:
> > > When a firmware file can be loaded directly, there is no good reason
> > > to lock usermodehelper.  It's needed only when the direct fw load
> > > fails and falls back to the user-mode helper.
> > 
> > I remembered that we discussed the problem before, :-)
> > 
> > Some crazy drivers might call request_firmware inside resume callback
> > (for example, USB devices might be rebind in resume), with
> > usermodehelper_read_lock, we can find the mistake easily and log it.
> > 
> > I am wondering if it is good to remove the usermodehelper lock.
> > 
> > Could you let us know any benefit to do it?
> 
> Well, the question is whether usermodehelper lock is really an
> appropriate stuff for *checking* the availability of direct fs
> access.  I find it doesn't fit well any longer, in the situation where
> no actual user-space call is needed.  Though, I'm not quite sure which
> lock or flag can be used instead...

In other words, the first patch is no essential part of the fix.
I can revisit the second patch without this one and resend if
preferred.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2013-05-08 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-08  6:56 [PATCH 0/3] firmware: Fix usermodehelper deadlock at shutdown Takashi Iwai
2013-05-08  6:56 ` [PATCH 1/3] firmware: Avoid superfluous usermodehelper lock Takashi Iwai
2013-05-08 15:52   ` Ming Lei
2013-05-08 16:21     ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-08 16:37       ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2013-05-08 17:51         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-09  1:25           ` Ming Lei
2013-05-09  7:31             ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-09  8:43               ` Ming Lei
2013-05-09 17:04                 ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-10  1:25                   ` Ming Lei
2013-05-10  9:32                     ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-11 13:01                       ` Ming Lei
2013-05-12  7:20                         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-12 13:32                           ` Ming Lei
2013-05-13 14:48                             ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-12 13:59           ` Ming Lei
2013-05-13 15:04             ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-08  6:56 ` [PATCH 2/3] firmware: Avoid deadlock of usermodehelper lock at shutdown Takashi Iwai
2013-05-08 15:56   ` Ming Lei
2013-05-08 16:15     ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-09  1:19       ` Ming Lei
2013-05-09  7:34         ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-08  6:56 ` [PATCH 3/3] dell_rbu: Select CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER explicitly Takashi Iwai
2013-05-08 15:42 ` [PATCH 0/3] firmware: Fix usermodehelper deadlock at shutdown Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-05-08 15:48   ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-08 15:59   ` Ming Lei
2013-05-08 16:07 ` Ming Lei
2013-05-08 16:26   ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-08 18:46     ` Kay Sievers
2013-05-09  7:26       ` Takashi Iwai
2013-05-21 17:02 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2013-05-22  1:21   ` Ming Lei
2013-05-22 16:25     ` Takashi Iwai

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