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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Chris Mason <mason@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	andrea@suse.de, mjy@geizhals.at, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: CONFIG_PREEMPT and server workloads
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 12:37:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5hsmg5awzv.wl@alsa2.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1079639286.4187.2113.camel@watt.suse.com>

At Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:48:07 -0500,
Chris Mason wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 14:29, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > > yep, i see a similar problem also in reiserfs's do_journal_end().
> > > it's in lock_kernel().
> > 
> > I have a scheduling point in journal_end() in 2.4.  But I added bugs to
> > reiserfs a couple of times doing this - it's pretty delicate.  Beat up on
> > Chris ;)
> 
> ;-) Not sure if Takashi is talking about -suse or -mm, the data=ordered
> patches change things around.  He sent me suggestions for the
> data=ordered latencies already, but it shouldn't be against the BKL
> there, since I drop it before calling write_ordered_buffers().

i tested only suse kernels recently.  will try mm kernel later, again.

ok, let me explain some nasty points i found through the disk i/o load
tests:

- in the loop in do_journal_end().  this happens periodically in
  pdflush.

  /* first data block is j_start + 1, so add one to cur_write_start wherever you use it */
  cur_write_start = SB_JOURNAL(p_s_sb)->j_start ;
  cn = SB_JOURNAL(p_s_sb)->j_first ;
  jindex = 1 ; /* start at one so we don't get the desc again */
  while(cn) {
    clear_bit(BH_JNew, &(cn->bh->b_state)) ;
    ....
    next = cn->next ;
    free_cnode(p_s_sb, cn) ;
    cn = next ;
  }


- in write_ordered_buffers().

  i still don't figure out where.  we have already cond_resched()
  check in the loops.  this one is triggered when i write bulk data
  in parallel (1GB write with 20 threads at the same time), resulting
  in up to 2ms.

  a typical stacktracing looks like this:

	T=36.569 diff=3.64275
	  comm=reiserfs/0
	  rtc_interrupt (+cd/e0)
	  handle_IRQ_event (+2f/60)
	  do_IRQ (+76/170)
	  common_interrupt (+18/20)
	  kfree (+36/50)
	  reiserfs_free_jh (+34/60)
	  write_ordered_buffers (+11f/1d0)
	  flush_commit_list (+3e6/480)
	  flush_async_commits (+5d/70)
	  worker_thread (+164/1d0)
	  flush_async_commits (+0/70)
	  default_wake_function (+0/10)
	  default_wake_function (+0/10)
	  worker_thread (+0/1d0)
	  kthread (+77/9f)
	  kthread (+0/9f)
	  kernel_thread_helper (+5/10)


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2004-03-19 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-03-18  4:00 CONFIG_PREEMPT and server workloads Marinos J. Yannikos
2004-03-18  5:12 ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18  6:03 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-18  9:50   ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 14:51     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-18 15:34       ` Robert Love
2004-03-18 16:01         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-18 17:39       ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 17:58         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-18 18:26           ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 18:38             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-18 18:47               ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 19:01                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-18 17:48       ` Robert Love
2004-03-18 18:00         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 10:48         ` Jamie Lokier
2004-03-19  2:17       ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]         ` <20040319050948.GN2045@holomorphy.com>
2004-03-20 12:14           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 14:51             ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-20 15:03               ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 15:09                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-24 13:57                 ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-24 14:52                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-24 15:11                   ` William Lee Irwin III
2004-03-18 15:20     ` Tom Sightler
2004-03-18 15:37       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-18 23:54         ` Tom Sightler
2004-03-18 15:39       ` Robert Love
2004-03-18 15:28   ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-18 15:40     ` Robert Love
2004-03-18 15:42     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-18 19:01     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 19:08       ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-18 19:18         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 19:20           ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-18 19:43             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-18 19:50               ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-18 19:24         ` Robert Love
2004-03-19 22:03           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2004-03-19 22:12             ` Robert Love
2004-03-24 15:00               ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-18 19:16       ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-18 19:29         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 19:48           ` Chris Mason
2004-03-19 11:37             ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2004-03-19 13:46               ` Chris Mason
2004-03-19 14:06                 ` Takashi Iwai
     [not found]         ` <20040318221006.74246648.akpm@osdl.org>
2004-03-19 10:30           ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-23  9:14             ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-19 17:22           ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-19 18:03             ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-20 12:24             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-20 13:13               ` Dipankar Sarma
2004-03-18 19:39       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2004-03-18 22:32     ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-18 22:54       ` Chris Mason
2004-03-18 23:57         ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-19 20:46           ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-19 21:08             ` Andrew Morton
2004-03-19  3:07     ` Eric St-Laurent
2004-03-19 11:23       ` Takashi Iwai
2004-03-19 13:35         ` Chris Mason

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