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From: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
To: Padraig Brady <padraig@antefacto.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Finegrained a/c/mtime was Re: Directory notification problem
Date: 08 Oct 2001 12:04:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <shs4rpav46j.fsf@charged.uio.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3r8slywp0.fsf@myware.mynet> <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110031111470.29619-100000@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20011003232609.A11804@gruyere.muc.suse.de> <3BBDAB24.7000909@antefacto.com> <20011005150144.A11810@gruyere.muc.suse.de> <3BBDB26D.2050705@antefacto.com> <20011005163807.A13524@gruyere.muc.suse.de> <3BBDCAF8.6070705@antefacto.com> <20011005211235.A16163@gruyere.muc.suse.de> <3BC16632.4040008@antefacto.com>
In-Reply-To: Padraig Brady's message of "Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:39:14 +0100"

>>>>> " " == Padraig Brady <padraig@antefacto.com> writes:

     > you then have the same problem with synchronising nanosecond
     > times between the various processors (which could be the other
     > side of a network cable in some

     > configurations)? So perhaps the best solution is to maintain
     > both a generation

     > count which would do for many apps who just care if the file
     > has changed relative

     > to some moment it time and not relative to another file(s) on
     > the filesystem .

     > Then for make type applications you could maintain the full
     > resolution timestamp,

     > however this will still have the
     > synchronisation/portability/CPU expense issues

     > discussed previously.

This `generation count' idea for file change stamping will eventually
have to go into the kernel if only because things like NFSv4 will
require it.

Meanwhile though, you're going have to look elsewhere than ordinary
NFS to be able to share the generation information over your
network. The current protocols support microsecond(v2)/nanosecond(v3)
timestamps only.

Cheers,
   Trond

  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-10-08 10:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110022206100.29931-100000@devserv.devel.redhat.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2001-10-03  7:53 ` Finegrained a/c/mtime was Re: Directory notification problem Andi Kleen
2001-10-03  8:06   ` Ulrich Drepper
2001-10-03 13:35     ` Eric W. Biederman
2001-10-03 14:11       ` Netfilter problem Kirill Ratkin
2001-10-03 21:42         ` Luigi Genoni
2001-10-03 15:24       ` Finegrained a/c/mtime was Re: Directory notification problem Gerhard Mack
2001-10-16 18:56         ` Riley Williams
2001-10-03 15:15     ` Alex Larsson
2001-10-03 21:26       ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-05 12:44         ` Padraig Brady
2001-10-05 12:59           ` Andrew Pimlott
2001-10-05 13:01           ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-05 13:15             ` Padraig Brady
2001-10-05 14:38               ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-05 15:00                 ` Padraig Brady
2001-10-05 19:12                   ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-08  8:39                     ` Padraig Brady
2001-10-08  8:58                       ` Padraig Brady
2001-10-08 10:04                       ` Trond Myklebust [this message]
2001-10-05 20:22                 ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-10-03 17:45   ` Bernd Eckenfels
2001-10-13 15:24     ` Jamie Lokier
2001-10-13 16:12       ` Andi Kleen
2001-10-13 19:38         ` Jamie Lokier

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