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From: Oleg Verych <olecom@flower.upol.cz>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2007-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit
Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 13:02:37 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <slrnerugvv.f71.olecom@flower.upol.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 21d7e9970701300144j33f5264dh932848ae81a89252@mail.gmail.com

> From: "Dave Airlie"
> Newsgroups: gmane.linux.kernel
> Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2007-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit
> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 20:44:49 +1100
[]
>> Rather, than "business class ;-)", i whould like to see comments about
>> good quality video coverage of the KS, which (KS) is that, as you
>> described here:
>>
>
> KS isn't a conference that lends itself to recording ppl a lot of
> people seem to think it is like a mini-OLS or mini-LCA, it is more
> discussion based (or at least should be...), it isn't held in a
> lecture theatre, people aren't meant to do slides beyond talking
> points....

1. To setup quality coverage, is hard and (i think) expensive (news media
company needed). Hackers with webcams, where nothing can be seen and
heard, isn't that i expect in the 21th century, the century of the
telecommunication.

2. It's believed to be "high bandwidth" discussion, and i think it's much
better, than slides, talk, (?wtf was in)Q/(here's your)A. Because this
may obligate you to think fast, to think what you (invited person) say,
and say what you think.

3. As for everyone, who listen English speech only in Hollywood
movies (yea, that's me, and i'm writing this to you now ;), such kind of
conversation with fights, debates, etc. is a worth material. (I don't
want to compare this to _some_ scientific confs, where people reading
their mouney-has-been-spent-OK reports).

> It mainly involves ppl sitting around tables talking about stuff with
> some mics... I think we could hold KS as an open non-invite event if
> it wasn't attached to a major conference and was held somewhere no-one
> wants to go :-)

4. If there will be good ideas and real items for TODOs, technical
details, fun, etc. why not to share it? Do you have something to hide, or
you think, after seeng that, some employer will shrink somebody's travel
budget (:?

I think Linux Kernel has just became mature, as its long-time developers
have. And i think, mini/maxi conferences must become more mature ether.

And donig paper work here, like slides, abstracts, articles, isn't a
first requirement (again, after the end of the Cold War, cheap PC,
Microsoft Word in the Windows, the most scientific work had finallt
became A Paper Work (patent pending)). AFAIK Linus doen't like this
either, rather than to (verbally) discuss things.

Maybe [1] isn't that companies, like Red Hat, will like to do,
because, this is part of their paid business, but [2]-[4] may have
more weight against this.

> Dave.

____


  reply	other threads:[~2007-01-30 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 105+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-01-22  7:09 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Theodore Ts'o
2007-01-22 11:07 ` [Ksummit-2006-discuss] " Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-22 12:45   ` Alan Cox
2007-01-22 13:14     ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-22 13:17       ` Steven Whitehouse
2007-05-03 21:54         ` LinuxConf Europe 2007 [was Re: 2007 Linux Kernel Summit] Alasdair G Kergon
2007-01-22 13:34       ` [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Alan
2007-01-22 18:23       ` Rik van Riel
2007-01-23 17:57     ` David Miller
2007-01-23 19:18       ` +1 4 cz (Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit) Oleg Verych
2007-01-25 15:22         ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-06 19:29           ` James Simmons
2007-02-06 20:00             ` Vojtech Pavlik
2007-02-06 20:10               ` James Simmons
2007-02-07 12:06                 ` [Ksummit-2007-discuss] " Arnd Bergmann
2007-02-07 12:17                   ` Markus Rechberger
2007-01-25 14:22       ` [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Dirk Hohndel
2007-01-25 20:51         ` David Miller
2007-01-25 20:59           ` Dirk Hohndel
2007-01-25 21:04             ` David Miller
2007-01-26  0:46           ` Sunil Naidu
2007-01-26  3:28             ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-26  4:39               ` Josh Boyer
2007-01-26  6:17               ` Greg KH
2007-01-26  8:15                 ` David Miller
2007-01-26 15:04               ` Sunil Naidu
     [not found]                 ` <20070126195024.GE14759@thunk.org>
2007-01-26 23:17                   ` Luck, Tony
     [not found]                     ` <20070127064534.GC9897@thunk.org>
2007-01-28  4:25                       ` Jes Sorensen
2007-01-28 13:22                         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]                   ` <45BE8BF9.6020204@sgi.com>
     [not found]                     ` <20070130030430.GA21772@redhat.com>
2007-01-30  3:30                       ` [Ksummit-2007-discuss] " Greg Ungerer
2007-01-30  3:41                         ` Dave Jones
2007-01-30  3:57                           ` Greg Ungerer
2007-01-30  4:01                           ` Greg Ungerer
2007-01-30  4:08                             ` Paul Mundt
2007-01-30  4:34                               ` Dave Jones
2007-01-30 10:30                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-30 16:48                                   ` James Bottomley
2007-01-30 16:53                                     ` Randy Dunlap
2007-01-30 17:12                                       ` James Bottomley
2007-01-31  8:18                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-30 14:35                                 ` Alan
2007-01-30  4:10                             ` Dave Jones
2007-01-30  4:22                               ` Greg Ungerer
2007-01-30  4:25                                 ` [Ksummit-2007-discuss] Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 LinuxKernel Summit Dirk Hohndel
2007-01-30  4:24                               ` Dirk Hohndel
2007-01-30  8:33                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2007-01-30  5:11                           ` [Ksummit-2007-discuss] Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Andi Kleen
2007-01-30  5:21                             ` Dave Jones
2007-01-30  6:18                             ` Paul Mundt
2007-01-30  4:57                         ` Jes Sorensen
2007-01-31  0:09                           ` Greg Ungerer
2007-01-30  3:36                       ` Greg Ungerer
2007-01-30  4:51                       ` Jes Sorensen
2007-01-30  5:11                         ` James Bottomley
2007-01-30 10:33                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-01-30 13:30                           ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-30 13:41                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-01-30 13:51                             ` Paul Mundt
2007-02-03  7:00                             ` Len Brown
2007-01-30  5:19                         ` Dave Jones
2007-01-30  5:47                           ` Jes Sorensen
2007-01-30  5:03                     ` Andi Kleen
2007-01-30  5:51                       ` Jes Sorensen
2007-01-30  6:04                         ` Andi Kleen
2007-01-30  6:11                           ` Jes Sorensen
2007-01-30 18:21                             ` Luck, Tony
2007-01-30  6:43                         ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2007-01-30  7:18                           ` Dave Jones
2007-01-30  7:29                             ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2007-01-30 15:17                               ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                     ` <1170118042.3378.45.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com>
     [not found]                       ` <45BEF0C5.7090401@sgi.com>
     [not found]                         ` <1170177057.3420.32.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com>
2007-01-30 17:27                           ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-01-30 17:37                             ` James Bottomley
2007-01-30 21:24                           ` Jes Sorensen
2007-01-31  0:42                             ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                         ` <20070130083025.1332a6ea.rdunlap@xenotime.net>
2007-01-31  0:52                           ` Matt Domsch
2007-01-31  2:21                             ` Jes Sorensen
2007-01-31 20:14                               ` Dave Jones
2007-01-31 22:49                                 ` Jes Sorensen
2007-01-31 23:20                                   ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-01-31 23:30                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-01-31 23:52                                       ` Gerrit Huizenga
2007-02-01  5:41                                       ` [Ksummit-2007-discuss] Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 LinuxKernel Summit Dirk Hohndel
2007-01-31 23:20                                 ` [Ksummit-2007-discuss] Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Alan
     [not found]                     ` <20070129161445.0475d833@freekitty>
2007-01-31 22:53                       ` Jes Sorensen
2007-01-26 17:29               ` Adrian Bunk
2007-01-30  9:09               ` [Ksummit-2007-discuss] " Oleg Verych
2007-01-30  9:44                 ` Dave Airlie
2007-01-30 13:02                   ` Oleg Verych [this message]
2007-01-30  9:22               ` hunting on open source developers (Re: [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit) Oleg Verych
2007-01-26 12:23           ` [Ksummit-2006-discuss] 2007 Linux Kernel Summit Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2007-01-26 12:38             ` Bjørn Mork
2007-01-26 13:23             ` Ralf Baechle
2007-01-26 13:45               ` Alan
2007-01-23 19:52     ` Sunil Naidu
2007-01-23 21:25       ` James Morris
2007-01-23 21:39         ` Josh Boyer
2007-01-23 23:11           ` Sunil Naidu
2007-01-24  1:42             ` Theodore Tso
2007-01-24  8:49               ` Sunil Naidu
     [not found]               ` <8f3aa8d60701241018o6d4d8c37jb20ddb49f47e3eec@mail.gmail.com>
2007-01-24 18:27                 ` Martin Bligh
2007-01-24 19:47                   ` Scott Preece
2007-01-24 21:26                     ` Alan Cox
2007-01-26 21:46                       ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                     ` <E1H9pZc-0002J5-Na@flower>
2007-01-24 21:35                       ` Scott Preece
2007-01-24  9:30 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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