From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1755944AbcBHU6t (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Feb 2016 15:58:49 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:39470 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753464AbcBHU6r (ORCPT ); Mon, 8 Feb 2016 15:58:47 -0500 From: Jeff Moyer To: Dan Williams Cc: Dave Chinner , Ross Zwisler , "linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" , "Theodore Ts'o" , Alexander Viro , Andreas Dilger , Andrew Morton , Jan Kara , Matthew Wilcox , linux-ext4 , linux-fsdevel , Linux MM , "linux-nvdimm\@lists.01.org" , XFS Developers Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] dax: move writeback calls into the filesystems References: <1454829553-29499-1-git-send-email-ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> <1454829553-29499-3-git-send-email-ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com> <20160207215047.GJ31407@dastard> <20160208201808.GK27429@dastard> X-PGP-KeyID: 1F78E1B4 X-PGP-CertKey: F6FE 280D 8293 F72C 65FD 5A58 1FF8 A7CA 1F78 E1B4 X-PCLoadLetter: What the f**k does that mean? Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 15:58:44 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Dan Williams's message of "Mon, 8 Feb 2016 12:55:24 -0800") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Dan Williams writes: > I agree the mount option needs to die, and I fully grok the reasoning. > What I'm concerned with is that a system using fully-DAX-aware > applications is forced to incur the overhead of maintaining *sync > semantics, periodic sync(2) in particular, even if it is not relying > on those semantics. > > However, like I said in my other mail, we can solve that with > alternate interfaces to persistent memory if that becomes an issue and > not require that "disable *sync" capability to come through DAX. What do you envision these alternate interfaces looking like? -Jeff