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From: Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>
To: Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>
Cc: "Valentin Schneider" <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	"K Prateek Nayak" <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Chengming Zhou" <chengming.zhou@linux.dev>,
	"Josh Don" <joshdon@google.com>, "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Vincent Guittot" <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	"Xi Wang" <xii@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Juri Lelli" <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	"Dietmar Eggemann" <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@suse.de>,
	"Chuyi Zhou" <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>,
	"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"Florian Bezdeka" <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>,
	"Songtang Liu" <liusongtang@bytedance.com>,
	"Chen Yu" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	"Matteo Martelli" <matteo.martelli@codethink.co.uk>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Task based throttle follow ups
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:54:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xm26348ntm9g.fsf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250910095044.278-1-ziqianlu@bytedance.com> (Aaron Lu's message of "Wed, 10 Sep 2025 17:50:40 +0800")

Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com> writes:

> Peter noticed the inconsistency in load propagation for throttled cfs_rq
> and Ben pointed out several other places regarding throttled cfs_rq that
> could be no longer needed after task based throttle model.
>
> To ease discussing and reviewing, I've come up with this follow up
> series which implements the individual changes.
>
> Patch1 deals with load propagation. According to Peter and Prateek's
> discussion, previously, load propagation for throttled cfs_rq happened
> on unthrottle time but now with per-task throttle, it's no longer the
> case so load propagation should happen immediately or we could lose this
> propagated part.
>
> Patch2 made update_cfs_group() to continue function for cfs_rqs in
> throttled hierarchy so that cfs_rq's entity can get an up2date weight. I
> think this is mostly useful when a cfs_rq in throttled hierarchy still
> has tasks running and on tick/enqueue/dequeue, update_cfs_group() can
> update this cfs_rq's entity weight.
>
> Patch3 removed special treatment of tasks in throttled hierarchy,
> including: dequeue_entities(), check_preempt_wakeup_fair() and
> yield_task_to_fair().
>
> Patch4 inhibited load balancing to a throttled cfs_rq to make hackbench
> happy.
>
> I think patch1 is needed for correctness, patch2-4 is open for
> discussion as there are pros/cons doing things either way. Comments are
> welcome, thanks.
>
> BTW, I also noticed there is the task_is_throttled sched class callback
> and in fair, it is task_is_throttled_fair(). IIUC, it is used by core
> scheduling to find a matching cookie task to run on the sibling SMT CPU.
> For this reason, it doesn't seem very useful if we find it a task that
> is to be throttled so I kept the current implementation; but I guess
> this is also two folded if that to be throttled task is holding some
> kernel resources. Anyway, I didn't write a patch to change it in this
> series, but feel free to let me know if it should be changed.
>
> Aaron Lu (4):
>   sched/fair: Propagate load for throttled cfs_rq
>   sched/fair: update_cfs_group() for throttled cfs_rqs
>   sched/fair: Do not special case tasks in throttled hierarchy
>   sched/fair: Do not balance task to a throttled cfs_rq
>
>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 50 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----------------
>  1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
>
>
> base-commit: 5b726e9bf9544a349090879a513a5e00da486c14

Yeah, these all make sense to me (with v2 for patch 4).

Reviewed-by: Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-15 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-10  9:50 [PATCH 0/4] Task based throttle follow ups Aaron Lu
2025-09-10  9:50 ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/fair: Propagate load for throttled cfs_rq Aaron Lu
2025-09-10 12:36   ` Chengming Zhou
2025-09-16 11:43   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Aaron Lu
2025-09-23 13:05   ` [PATCH 1/4] " Matteo Martelli
2025-09-24 11:33     ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-25  8:17       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-25  9:29         ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-25 11:22           ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-25 12:05             ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-25 13:33               ` Matteo Martelli
2025-09-26  4:32                 ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-26  5:53                   ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-26  8:19                 ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Start a cfs_rq on throttled hierarchy with PELT clock throttled K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-26  9:38                   ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-26 10:11                     ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-01 20:37                     ` Benjamin Segall
2025-09-26 14:48                   ` Matteo Martelli
2025-10-21  5:35                 ` [PATCH v2] " K Prateek Nayak
2025-10-21 10:10                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-22 13:28                   ` [tip: sched/urgent] " tip-bot2 for K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-29  7:51     ` [PATCH 1/4] sched/fair: Propagate load for throttled cfs_rq Aaron Lu
2025-09-10  9:50 ` [PATCH 2/4] sched/fair: update_cfs_group() for throttled cfs_rqs Aaron Lu
2025-09-16 11:43   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Aaron Lu
2025-09-10  9:50 ` [PATCH 3/4] sched/fair: Do not special case tasks in throttled hierarchy Aaron Lu
2025-09-16 11:43   ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Aaron Lu
2025-09-10  9:50 ` [PATCH 4/4] sched/fair: Do not balance task to a throttled cfs_rq Aaron Lu
2025-09-11  2:03   ` kernel test robot
2025-09-12  3:44     ` [PATCH update " Aaron Lu
2025-09-12  3:56       ` K Prateek Nayak
2025-09-16 11:43       ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Aaron Lu
2025-09-11 10:42 ` [PATCH 0/4] Task based throttle follow ups Peter Zijlstra
2025-09-11 12:16   ` Aaron Lu
2025-09-15 21:54 ` Benjamin Segall [this message]
2025-09-19 14:37 ` Valentin Schneider

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