From: Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>
To: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Sched/fair: Block nohz tick_stop when cfs bandwidth in use
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2023 10:55:44 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xm26fs6a8867.fsf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230629005342.GB8069@lorien.usersys.redhat.com> (Phil Auld's message of "Wed, 28 Jun 2023 20:53:42 -0400")
Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com> writes:
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 02:42:16PM -0700 Benjamin Segall wrote:
>> Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com> writes:
>>
>> > CFS bandwidth limits and NOHZ full don't play well together. Tasks
>> > can easily run well past their quotas before a remote tick does
>> > accounting. This leads to long, multi-period stalls before such
>> > tasks can run again. Currentlyi, when presented with these conflicting
>> > requirements the scheduler is favoring nohz_full and letting the tick
>> > be stopped. However, nohz tick stopping is already best-effort, there
>> > are a number of conditions that can prevent it, whereas cfs runtime
>> > bandwidth is expected to be enforced.
>> >
>> > Make the scheduler favor bandwidth over stopping the tick by setting
>> > TICK_DEP_BIT_SCHED when the only running task is a cfs task with
>> > runtime limit enabled.
>> >
>> > Add sched_feat HZ_BW (off by default) to control this behavior.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>
>> > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
>> > Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>> > Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
>> > Cc: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
>> > Cc: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
>> > Cc: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
>> > Cc: Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>
>> > ---
>> >
>> > v2: Ben pointed out that the bit could get cleared in the dequeue path
>> > if we migrate a newly enqueued task without preempting curr. Added a
>> > check for that edge case to sched_can_stop_tick. Removed the call to
>> > sched_can_stop_tick from sched_fair_update_stop_tick since it was
>> > redundant.
>> >
>> > kernel/sched/core.c | 12 +++++++++++
>> > kernel/sched/fair.c | 45 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > kernel/sched/features.h | 2 ++
>> > 3 files changed, 59 insertions(+)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
>> > index a68d1276bab0..646f60bfc7e7 100644
>> > --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
>> > +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
>> > @@ -1194,6 +1194,8 @@ static void nohz_csd_func(void *info)
>> > #endif /* CONFIG_NO_HZ_COMMON */
>> >
>> > #ifdef CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL
>> > +extern bool sched_cfs_bandwidth_active(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq);
>> > +
>> > bool sched_can_stop_tick(struct rq *rq)
>> > {
>> > int fifo_nr_running;
>> > @@ -1229,6 +1231,16 @@ bool sched_can_stop_tick(struct rq *rq)
>> > if (rq->nr_running > 1)
>> > return false;
>> >
>> > + /*
>> > + * If there is one task and it has CFS runtime bandwidth constraints
>> > + * and it's on the cpu now we don't want to stop the tick.
>> > + */
>> > + if (sched_feat(HZ_BW) && rq->nr_running == 1 && rq->curr
>> > + && rq->curr->sched_class == &fair_sched_class && task_on_rq_queued(rq->curr)) {
>> > + if (sched_cfs_bandwidth_active(task_cfs_rq(rq->curr)))
>>
>> Actually, something I should have noticed earlier is that this should
>> probably be hierarchical, right? You need to check every ancestor
>> cfs_rq, not just the immediate parent. And at that point it probably
>> makes sense to have sched_cfs_bandwidth_active take a task_struct.
>>
>
> Are you saying a child cfs_rq with a parent that has runtime_enabled could
> itself not have runtime_enabled? I may be missing something but I don't
> see how that works.
Correct.
>
> account_cfs_rq_runtime() for example just looks at the immediate cfs_rq of
> curr and bails if it does not have runtime_enabled. How could that task get
> throttled if it exceeds some parent's limit?
account_cfs_rq_runtime() is called (primarily) from update_curr(), which
is called by enqueue_entity/dequeue_entity/entity_tick/etc, which are
called at each level of the hierarchy.
The worse cache behavior of doing a separate walk in sched_can_stop_tick
aka add/sub_nr_running could I guess be avoided by having some
runtime_enabled flag on the task struct or rq that is up to date for
rq->curr only. That would only be a little annoying to keep accurate,
and there's the dual arguments of "task_struct/rq is already too
cluttered"/"well they're already so cluttered a little more won't hurt".
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-06-29 17:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-06-27 19:12 [PATCH v2] Sched/fair: Block nohz tick_stop when cfs bandwidth in use Phil Auld
2023-06-27 21:19 ` kernel test robot
2023-06-28 21:42 ` Benjamin Segall
2023-06-29 0:53 ` Phil Auld
2023-06-29 17:55 ` Benjamin Segall [this message]
2023-06-29 19:06 ` Phil Auld
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