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From: Benjamin Segall <bsegall@google.com>
To: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Roman Kagan <rkagan@amazon.de>,
	Zhang Qiao <zhangqiao22@huawei.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [bug-report] possible s64 overflow in max_vruntime()
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 14:10:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <xm26v8kr7ho0.fsf@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKfTPtBMSg2SDXq=sVt99TyM+tEXRFL74EQ57-t5uKYAXUUyLg@mail.gmail.com> (Vincent Guittot's message of "Fri, 27 Jan 2023 17:18:56 +0100")

Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org> writes:

> On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 at 12:44, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 07:31:02PM +0100, Roman Kagan wrote:
>>
>> > > All that only matters for small sleeps anyway.
>> > >
>> > > Something like:
>> > >
>> > >         sleep_time = U64_MAX;
>> > >         if (se->avg.last_update_time)
>> > >           sleep_time = cfs_rq_clock_pelt(cfs_rq) - se->avg.last_update_time;
>> >
>> > Interesting, why not rq_clock_task(rq_of(cfs_rq)) - se->exec_start, as
>> > others were suggesting?  It appears to better match the notion of sleep
>> > wall-time, no?
>>
>> Should also work I suppose. cfs_rq_clock takes throttling into account,
>> but that should hopefully also not be *that* long, so either should
>> work.
>
> yes rq_clock_task(rq_of(cfs_rq)) should be fine too

No, last_update_time is based on cfs_rq_clock_pelt(cfs_rq), and it will
get more and more out of sync as time goes on, every time the cfs_rq
throttles. It won't reset when the throttle is done.

>
> Another thing to take into account is the sleeper credit that the
> waking task deserves so the detection should be done once it has been
> subtracted from vruntime.
>
> Last point, when a nice -20 task runs on a rq, it will take a bit more
> than 2 seconds for the vruntime to be increased by more than 24ms (the
> maximum credit that a waking task can get) so threshold must be
> significantly higher than 2 sec. On the opposite side, the lowest
> possible weight of a cfs rq is 2 which means that the problem appears
> for a sleep longer or equal to 2^54 = 2^63*2/1024. We should use this
> value instead of an arbitrary 200 days

  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-27 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-21 15:19 [bug-report] possible s64 overflow in max_vruntime() Zhang Qiao
2022-12-21 16:10 ` Waiman Long
2022-12-22 12:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-12-23 13:57   ` Zhang Qiao
2023-01-12  3:01     ` Zhang Qiao
2023-01-25 19:57     ` Roman Kagan
2023-01-25 19:45   ` Roman Kagan
2023-01-26 12:49     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-26 18:31       ` Roman Kagan
2023-01-27 11:44         ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-01-27 16:18           ` Vincent Guittot
2023-01-27 22:10             ` Benjamin Segall [this message]
2023-01-27 22:29               ` Vincent Guittot
2023-01-31  3:21             ` Chen Yu
2023-01-31  9:59               ` Roman Kagan
2023-01-31 11:10                 ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-01 12:52                   ` Chen Yu
2023-02-07 19:37                   ` Roman Kagan
2023-02-08 10:13                     ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-08 18:09                       ` Roman Kagan
2023-02-09 11:26                         ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-09 13:33                           ` Roman Kagan
2023-02-09 13:44                             ` Vincent Guittot
2023-02-09 14:34                               ` Roman Kagan

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