From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1758376AbZBZVKZ (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:10:25 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753244AbZBZVKI (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:10:08 -0500 Received: from mx2.redhat.com ([66.187.237.31]:45520 "EHLO mx2.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754299AbZBZVKG (ORCPT ); Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:10:06 -0500 To: Theodore Tso Cc: Andrew Morton , Ingo Molnar , Steven Rostedt , LKML , Thomas Gleixner , Peter Zijlstra , Frederic Weisbecker , Arjan van de Ven , Pekka Paalanen , Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo , Jason Baron , Martin Bligh , Mathieu Desnoyers , KOSAKI Motohiro , Jens Axboe , Masami Hiramatsu , Steven Rostedt Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] tracing: add event trace infrastructure References: <20090225025608.956691460@goodmis.org> <20090225025753.798204550@goodmis.org> <20090224194548.3effb746.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090224203308.8d623e0b.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090225081118.GC15303@elte.hu> <20090225002852.5ef5b869.akpm@linux-foundation.org> <20090225135437.GG7064@mit.edu> From: fche@redhat.com (Frank Ch. Eigler) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 16:08:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <20090225135437.GG7064@mit.edu> (Theodore Tso's message of "Wed, 25 Feb 2009 08:54:37 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Theodore Tso writes: > [...] I think it's because we've just been burned so many times > with complex user space tools that are built in C++, have > impossible-to-understand error handling ("try again with -vvvvvvv"), > is hard to build because they have huge dependencies on external > libraries, or is filled with distro dependencies and might not build > on various distributions, or is dependent on the RPM macros, etc. > [...] How many of these concerns have a basis in recent reality / experience? - FChE