From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Douglas Gilbert <dgilbert@interlog.com>
Cc: Christophe LEROY <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>,
Jeffrey Lien <Jeff.Lien@wdc.com>,
Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-crypto\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-block\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-scsi\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
"herbert\@gondor.apana.org.au" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
"tim.c.chen\@linux.intel.com" <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
"martin.petersen\@oracle.com" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
David Darrington <david.darrington@wdc.com>,
Jeff Furlong <jeff.furlong@wdc.com>,
Joe Perches <joe@perches.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Performance Improvement in CRC16 Calculations.
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 23:20:05 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq1a7plel22.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e2f9fa43-6104-214e-1570-b3753cb14b13@interlog.com> (Douglas Gilbert's message of "Thu, 16 Aug 2018 13:38:22 -0400")
> With regard to your comment about slice (table ?) size, that is
> partially addressed by a kernel build time option shown in the above
> patch. That could be taken a bit further with a sysfs knob (where ?)
> to reduce the effective table size from that which the kernel is built
> with. To increase the size of the table would imply fetching some more
> heap and having an algorithm that could generate the extra part of
> that table required.
I am not a big fan of punting the decision to whoever compiles the
kernel to pick a number between 1 and 11 ("this CRC calculation is one
louder"). I would prefer to find a reasonable compromise between
bandwidth and cache thrashing side effects instead of overwhelming
people with build time choices and runtime tunables.
Almost everyone is running either Tim's PCLMULQDQ version or using IP
checksum for DIX. The software T10 CRC table implementation is mainly
there as a reference. I don't know of any production environments using
the table-based T10 CRC.
I don't have a problem making the code genuinely useful so it can be
leveraged by processors without hardware CRC acceleration capability.
But there needs to be some solid data guiding this decision so I'm
looking forward to see what WDC has in store.
Our results definitely matched Christophe's in that larger slice-by-N
are not always a win. And "faster" isn't automatically "better" from an
application performance perspective. With the caveat that our
measurements were done about 10 years ago and I'm sure we've come a long
way with processors and caches since then. So the results should be
interesting...
--
Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-17 3:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-10 19:12 [PATCH] Performance Improvement in CRC16 Calculations Jeff Lien
2018-08-10 19:23 ` Joe Perches
2018-08-10 20:02 ` Nicolas Pitre
2018-08-11 0:11 ` Joe Perches
2018-08-11 0:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2018-08-11 2:39 ` Douglas Gilbert
2018-08-11 9:04 ` Joe Perches
2018-08-11 15:06 ` Joe Perches
2018-08-13 18:41 ` Jeffrey Lien
2018-08-13 3:36 ` Douglas Gilbert
2018-08-13 4:29 ` Joe Perches
2018-08-10 20:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2018-08-10 20:16 ` Eric Biggers
2018-08-16 14:02 ` Jeffrey Lien
2018-08-16 14:22 ` Douglas Gilbert
2018-08-16 15:41 ` Christophe LEROY
2018-08-16 17:38 ` Douglas Gilbert
2018-08-17 3:20 ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2018-08-16 15:47 ` Christophe LEROY
2018-08-10 20:56 ` Douglas Gilbert
2018-08-11 15:36 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-11 16:35 ` Joe Perches
2018-08-22 1:40 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-22 6:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-24 15:32 ` Jeffrey Lien
2018-08-24 15:39 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-24 16:29 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-24 17:38 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-24 21:46 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-24 21:54 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-24 22:12 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-25 6:12 ` Herbert Xu
2018-08-26 2:35 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-26 2:40 ` [PATCH 1/4] crypto: Introduce notifier for new crypto algorithms Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-26 2:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] crc-t10dif: Pick better transform if one becomes available Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-27 6:13 ` Herbert Xu
2018-08-26 2:40 ` [PATCH 3/4] crc-t10dif: Allow current transform to be inspected in sysfs Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-26 2:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] block: Integrity profile init function to trigger module loads Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-26 8:22 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-26 13:30 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-26 13:44 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-08-26 13:48 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-27 6:09 ` [PATCH 1/4] crypto: Introduce notifier for new crypto algorithms Herbert Xu
2018-08-30 14:57 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-30 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] " Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-30 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] crc-t10dif: Pick better transform if one becomes available Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-30 15:00 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] crc-t10dif: Allow current transform to be inspected in sysfs Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-31 17:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] crypto: Introduce notifier for new crypto algorithms Jeffrey Lien
2018-09-04 5:21 ` Herbert Xu
2018-09-04 13:30 ` Torsten Duwe
2018-08-24 16:30 ` [PATCH] Performance Improvement in CRC16 Calculations Martin K. Petersen
2018-08-13 4:44 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2018-08-13 11:45 ` David Laight
2018-08-13 13:50 ` David Laight
2018-08-13 22:44 ` Tim Chen
2018-08-15 12:51 ` Jeffrey Lien
2018-08-15 18:31 ` Pavel Machek
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