From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Ignacio Encinas Rubio <ignacio@iencinas.com>,
lkmm@lists.linux.dev, paulmck@kernel.org, joel@joelfernandes.org,
Akira Yokosawa <akiyks@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel-mentees@lists.linux.dev, peterz@infradead.org,
corbet@lwn.net, Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: Potential translation of LKMM docs into ReST
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2025 01:52:45 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250331015245.260fbb52@sal.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16aa2173-afb2-4781-b1b0-a248b1f16a9f@rowland.harvard.edu>
Em Sun, 30 Mar 2025 12:09:22 -0400
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> escreveu:
> On Sun, Mar 30, 2025 at 01:07:23PM +0200, Ignacio Encinas Rubio wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > There is interest [1] to get the memory model documentation into the
> > built docs. Akira pointed out that this was discussed in the past [2].
> >
> > A couple of years have gone by, so I was wondering whether the decision
> > to keep plain text documentation still applies.
> >
> > There is an "easy" way [3] to get the plain text documentation into the
> > built docs, but I would be happy to work in a conversion into ReST if
> > that's what you want :)
> >
> > Ccing people involved in [2]
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/87o6y5lvvg.fsf@trenco.lwn.net/
> > [2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20190901133530.GL4125@linux.ibm.com/
> > [3] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220927160559.97154-7-corbet@lwn.net/
>
> I have no great interest in seeing the memory model documentation
> translated into ReST, but you're welcome to try it and see how it comes
> out if you want. Some of the files are likely to be easier to convert
> than others.
>
> The only restriction I will insist on is that if the resulting ReST
> source files end up being unreadable because of all the markup they
> contain then we must keep the original plain text files too.
I did some attempts to convert some of them to ReST. Some files
could be a little be tricky if we want them to be converted, but
it is possible to go to a minimal set of changes. For instance:
Documentation/memory-barriers.txt
There is an outdated conversion of it could be found at:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/5/18/1267
If you take a look on it, most of the changes are minimal. On a
quick look on my previous patch, what we have is:
1) the most relevant change: example blocks need to use "::", like:
-in 24 different combinations:
+in 24 different combinations::
STORE A=3, STORE B=4, y=LOAD A->3, x=LOAD B->4
STORE A=3, STORE B=4, x=LOAD B->4, y=LOAD A->3
2) This won't work:
By: foo
bar
As it will produce a warning and place everything on a single line.
The smallest change would be to add a blank line after :, e.g.:
By:
foo
bar
3) This is not valid list on ReST:
(*) element
(*) element
On ReST, unumerated lists use either:
- element
- element
or:
* element
* element
We may also use, instead, a numerated list with:
(#) element
(#) element
On such case, Sphinx will automatically numerate the list
This is what I proposed back them to make changes minimal,
as i wouldn't need to adjust indentation.
4) Tables in ReST require an extra line before/after it:
+ =============== ======================= ===========================
TYPE MANDATORY SMP CONDITIONAL
=============== ======================= ===========================
GENERAL mb() smp_mb()
WRITE wmb() smp_wmb()
READ rmb() smp_rmb()
DATA DEPENDENCY read_barrier_depends() smp_read_barrier_depends()
+ =============== ======================= ===========================
5) Footnotes on ReST require a different notation. Either:
[1]_
or:
[#]_
and, at the place they're used:
.. [1] foo
or
.. [#] foo
6) Chapter numeration markups need to start from column 1. On files with
sub-chapters, some changes to use the same markup might me needed (this is
not the case of memory-barriers).
The remaining changes I did back then on such patch were cosmetic to make it
look more similar to other parts of Documentation, like using "Titles Case"
for chapters and converting CONTENTS to a comment for them to not appear at
the docs output (as Sphinx already generates a contents index).
Regards,
Mauro
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-30 17:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-30 11:07 Potential translation of LKMM docs into ReST Ignacio Encinas Rubio
2025-03-30 16:09 ` Alan Stern
2025-03-30 17:52 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2025-05-06 2:50 ` [PATCH] lkmm: docs: Put LKMM documentation into dev-tools book Akira Yokosawa
2025-05-07 0:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-06-09 22:03 ` Jonathan Corbet
2025-06-10 2:11 ` Akira Yokosawa
2025-06-10 8:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
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