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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Gary Guo <gary@garyguo.net>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
	lkmm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
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	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 03/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2025 19:48:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFjAarXzLPnv2kHO@Mac.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250621121842.0c3ca452.gary@garyguo.net>

On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 12:18:42PM +0100, Gary Guo wrote:
[...]
> > +
> > +/// The annotation type for relaxed memory ordering.
> > +pub struct Relaxed;
> > +
> > +/// The annotation type for acquire memory ordering.
> > +pub struct Acquire;
> > +
> > +/// The annotation type for release memory ordering.
> > +pub struct Release;
> > +
> > +/// The annotation type for fully-order memory ordering.
> > +pub struct Full;
> > +
> > +/// Describes the exact memory ordering.
> > +pub enum OrderingType {
> > +    /// Relaxed ordering.
> > +    Relaxed,
> > +    /// Acquire ordering.
> > +    Acquire,
> > +    /// Release ordering.
> > +    Release,
> > +    /// Fully-ordered.
> > +    Full,
> > +}
> 
> Does this need to be public? I think this can cause a confusion on what
> this is in the rendered documentation.
> 

I would like to make it public so that users can define their own method
with ordering out of atomic mod (even out of kernel crate):

    pub fn my_ordering_func<Ordering: All>(..., o: Ordering) {
        match Ordering::TYPE {

	}
    }

I just realized to do so I need to make OrderingUnit pub too (with a
sealed supertrait of course).

> IIUC this is for internal atomic impl only
> and this is not useful otherwise. This can be moved into `internal` and
> then `pub(super) use internal::OrderingType` to stop exposing it.
> 
> (Or, just `#[doc(hidden)]` so it doesn't show in the docs).
> 

Seem reasonable.

> > +
> > +mod internal {
> > +    /// Unit types for ordering annotation.
> > +    ///
> > +    /// Sealed trait, can be only implemented inside atomic mod.
> > +    pub trait OrderingUnit {
> > +        /// Describes the exact memory ordering.
> > +        const TYPE: super::OrderingType;
> > +    }
> > +}
> > +
> > +impl internal::OrderingUnit for Relaxed {
> > +    const TYPE: OrderingType = OrderingType::Relaxed;
> > +}
[...]
> > +
> > +/// The trait bound for operations that only support acquire or relaxed ordering.
> > +pub trait AcquireOrRelaxed: All {
> > +    /// Describes whether an ordering is relaxed or not.
> > +    const IS_RELAXED: bool = false;
> 
> This should not be needed. I'd prefer to the use site to just match on
> `TYPE`.
> 

Right, I somehow missed how monomorphization works. I can drop this.
Thanks!

> > +}
> > +
[...]
> > +/// The trait bound for operations that only support relaxed ordering.
> > +pub trait RelaxedOnly: AcquireOrRelaxed + ReleaseOrRelaxed + All {}
> > +
> > +impl RelaxedOnly for Relaxed {}
> 
> Any reason that this is needed at all? Should just be a non-generic

Mostly for documentation purpose, i.e. users can figure out the ordering
from the trait bounds of the function. I will say we can probably drop
it when we find a Release-only or Acquire-only function, but even then
the current definition won't affect users, so I lean torwards keeping
it.

Regards,
Boqun

> function that takes a `Relaxed` directly?
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-23  2:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-18 16:49 [PATCH v5 00/10] LKMM generic atomics in Rust Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] rust: Introduce atomic API helpers Boqun Feng
2025-06-26  8:44   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27 14:00     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] rust: sync: Add basic atomic operation mapping framework Boqun Feng
2025-06-26  8:50   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-26 10:17   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27 14:30     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add ordering annotation types Boqun Feng
2025-06-19 10:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19 12:19     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-06-19 13:29     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-19 14:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19 15:00         ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-19 15:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-19 15:15             ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-19 18:04           ` Alan Stern
2025-06-21 11:18   ` Gary Guo
2025-06-23  2:48     ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-06-26 12:36   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27 14:34     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-27 14:44       ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add generic atomics Boqun Feng
2025-06-21 11:32   ` Gary Guo
2025-06-23  5:19     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 11:54       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-23 12:58         ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 18:30       ` Gary Guo
2025-06-23 19:09         ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-23 23:27           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-24 16:35             ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 13:54               ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 21:22                 ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-04 22:05                   ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 22:30                     ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-04 22:49                       ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 23:21                         ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-04 20:25           ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-04 20:45             ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 21:17               ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-04 22:38                 ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-04 23:21                   ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-05  8:04                     ` Benno Lossin
2025-07-05 15:38                       ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-05 21:43                         ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-26 12:15   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-27 15:01     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-30  9:52       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 14:44         ` Alan Stern
2025-07-01  8:54           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-07-01 14:50             ` Boqun Feng
2025-07-02  8:33               ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add atomic {cmp,}xchg operations Boqun Feng
2025-06-21 11:37   ` Gary Guo
2025-06-23  5:23     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 13:12   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-28  3:03     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-30 10:16       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-30 14:51         ` Alan Stern
2025-06-30 15:12           ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-27  8:58   ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-27 13:53     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-28  6:12       ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-28  7:31         ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-28  8:00           ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-30 15:24             ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-30 15:27               ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-30 15:50               ` Benno Lossin
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add the framework of arithmetic operations Boqun Feng
2025-06-21 11:41   ` Gary Guo
2025-06-26 12:39   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-28  3:04     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<u{32,64}> Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 12:47   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<{usize,isize}> Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 12:49   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] rust: sync: atomic: Add Atomic<*mut T> Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 16:49 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] rust: sync: Add memory barriers Boqun Feng
2025-06-26 13:36   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-28  3:42     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-30  9:54       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-06-18 20:22 ` [PATCH v5 00/10] LKMM generic atomics in Rust Alice Ryhl

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